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From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Same Sex Marriages in 205x (was Re: Sex and the single
Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 20:31:51 -0500
On Tue, 12 May 1998 20:14:44 -0400 Erik Jameson <erikj@****.COM> writes:
>At 07:10 PM 5/12/98 +0000, you wrote:
<SNIP Marriage stuff :) >
>But it does bring up an interesting question.
>
>In our current day and age, for whatever reasons (which I refuse to
discuss
>for the sake of the list), same-sex marriage is not legally sanctioned
by
>the US government; it's not considered to be a legally binding contract,
>like "normal" marriage is. I don't know what the current situation in
Europe >is, but from what little I know homosexuality is at least legally
>accepted (don't know about societal acceptance), but I don't believe
>same-sex marriage is considered to be the same as "normal" marriage.
>
>Would this have changed in 205X? And please specify what nation you are
>referring to, because attitudes on this subject are likely to be colored
by
>national perspectives. Also, please leave your own prejudices at the
>electronic door; I have my own thoughts and well, prejudices, on this
>matter but I'm not going to introduce them to the list or this
discussion.

Thank you :)

>I don't see it happening in the US anytime soon (RL time). With all the
>Chaos of the Awakening, it could easily have been ignored or forgotten
in
>all the other more important matters. I would suspect that it might
have
>become and issue again starting in the late 2040's.

I'm from the US, and I disagree, I think by 205x, same-sex marriages
would become "legal" / official AFIAK/IIRC, they already are in Hawaii...
I suspect that if it didn't happen before then, when North America
splintered some or all of te resultant nations would make it official. I
would guess at the very least the UCAS would, but I'm not sure about the
rest

>SR is a world full of hatred, which is mostly directed at different
>metatypes. Color is no longer as important in the scheme of racism.
>
>But sexual preference is something else entirely and cuts across racial
and
>gender lines. I suspect it would be one of those prejudices that is
still
>around in 205X.

Hmmm... prolly right...

>I would tend to think that Seattle 205X still doesn't have any laws on
the
>books saying that same-sex marriage is legal. It might be an unspoken
thing, >but not legally binding and on the law books.
>
>Hell, there probably are "gay rights" policlubs and even "gay
terrorists."
>Now that has some possibilities for a very different sort of
>shadowrun...I'm not positive all my players would react well to having
>their PCs hired by a gay rights activist for a shadowrun, but the
concept
>is interesting.

heh heh, makes me think of something from a game called Road Warrior
where you (a cabbie) are hired by nudist revolutionaries ... quite
humorous ... I think my group would be taken off guard more than taken
aback if approached by gay rights activists dor a `run. :)

>>Ari and Katie just (last night's game, AAMOF) performed an odd and
>>lengthy ritual to transfer the ghost fetuses into their wombs and get
>>pregnant (Katie was luckily in heat :P ).....

oooo... spooky :)
*ducks*

>Again, I don't really want to know.
>
>>Anyway, any thoughts on how a four-way marriage like that would work?
>
>It wouldn't. A three-way is considered to be a "cool" fantasy for young
>men and an increasing number of women. But I have never heard (either
in
>personal experience or on the radio) of a three-way that didn't end up
>destroying the relationship.
>
>So a four-way marriage has a chance of about one in an American billion.
A
>marriage of two people is hard enough with all the emotions, thoughts,
>jealosies, fights and so on. Multiply that a few times with four people
in
>the relationship.

Hmmm... I actually have known people personally where a three-way worked
out okay, but I didn't asked specifics ... :)

>Might be fun for one night/weekend, but I sure as hell wouldn't want to
>even think about a life time like that.
>
>Erik J.
<SNIP Sig>

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum)

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