From:	David Thompson <david.s.thompson@****.EDU>
Subject:	Re: Motion
Date:	Tue, 12 May 1998 23:17:08 -0400

At 07:35 PM 5/12/98 EDT, you wrote:
>In a message dated 98-05-12 19:01:20 EDT, David Thompson writes:
>
>> A vote against common courtesy and decency. Logged as such.
>
><soapbox>
>I've been reading the posts made along the subject lines that led to this
>motion, and have preatty much stayed out, not wanting to throw kindling on
the
>embers, but with that last comment you made, you seem to be the one showing a
>lack of common courtesy.

Actually, I was following my own advice. I expressed my opinion on the
opinion expressed. I did not state an opinion about the poster, except for
anything you would attribute to him as a result of what he said.

Did I say the Erik was an asshole, that I thought he was a horrible gamer
and a munchkin. No. Do I even think so, no. I was angered that he and
others would attack another member of this list so harshly, and I tried to
get the idea out on the list that perhaps we should be less quick to do so.
I also thought it was stupid of him to killfile Demosthenes 3. If I had
kill filed Erik because of his (IMO) inappropriate response, I never would
have seen his very good post on cyber and regeneration, which I agreed with
and supported.

Being called a jackass and a hypocrite, now that is a personal attack.
Thanks a lot Spike. I'll admit that I responded hastily, but it was more
in amazement than anything else. I thought I was really saying we should
try to be more ... polite for lack of a better word. I was amazed that the
response wasn't, yeah, we should try to do better, but we are people and
shit will happen. That was the response I was looking for. I just hoped
that my post would make people realize what was going on, and try to be a
little more civil. To say that nothing like that is needed is saying (IMO)
that we don't need to encourage civility. Hence my admittedly caustic
response.

As for the responses I have gotten, I won't say, because I'll just be
going in the direction I think we should avoid.

--DT