From:	Sheldon Rose <scrose@****.COM>
Subject:	Re: Munchkin Definition (again :)
Date:	Wed, 13 May 1998 13:35:36 -0500

David Buehrer wrote:
>
> Bull wrote:
> /
> / >I've never liked that the list could never agree on it's definintion. For
> / >example, I violently disagree that being able to roleplay is a
> / >disqualifier for it.
> /
> / For once MC23, we agree completely... I've met several players who use a
> / well thought out background and a little bit of roleplaying as an excuse to
> / play cybered up over powered characters. They really fall more under the
> / Power Gamer category, but let's face it, the word's meaning has changed to
> / be a bit more broad and all encompassing these days :]
>
> How about: A munchkin may be defined as a player who's *characters*
> consistently have a negative impact on the game that far outway their
> positive impact on the *game*.

I like this defination it works as far as it goes one of the other
things I've noticed about munchkin's they get upset you kill off one or
more of these creations. Start screaming things like you are picking on
me and what not.

> Cuz I've known a munchkin who was an okay guy, but his character
> were, well, munchkinous.

> I've also gamed with people who where power gamers, number crunchers,
> rules lawyers, cheaters, etc, and yet their characters' positive
> impact was significantly greater than their negative impact.

I know some matter of fact I am one. In that I can and do create
characters that very nasty but don't take advantage of holes in the rule
system. If you know what you are doing with the extended rule sets that
all the archtypes have it can down right nasty right quick. :) Then toss
in SRComp and let have a feild day with edges and flaws toss in the rule
of 10 or pure point based character is even better.

IMO the big thing is weather or not the character has a positive or
negivate impact on the game. One of my rigger/deckers is loaded up with
cyber .2 essese and part of that is alpha ware thing is she is a team
player and fills a hole in group we lost two players due to transfers
out of the area. :(