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From: Wafflemeisters <evamarie@**********.NET>
Subject: Re: Weird Campaigns
Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 16:45:25 -0500
>
> Re: Weird Campaigns -Reply -Reply (Mike Elkins , Tue 16:35)
>
> >> Wafflemeisters wrote:
> >> > Alert status can be worked around; the alert is sounded
> >> > universally, but security tallies for each decker are SEPERATE
> >> > (otherwise, IC would jump EVERYBODY, even legit users).
> >>
> >> No, legit users have valid passcodes and attempt "suspicious"
> actions
> >> infrequently. Tallies are global, which is why the first few entries on
> a
> >> security sheath are things like probe or white ice--otherwise the first
> >> dweeb who forgets his passcode and asks for the wrong file gets
> >> phychotropically altered.
> >>
> <then MCP wrote:>
> >But what happens when there is a decker in the system who has
> > upped the tally to a dangerous level (say one or two points short of
> >black ICE), and the VP of Engineering tries to log on, and types his
> >password wrong?
>
> Well, what happens is the system kicks off the back ice, which then
> figures out what it should attack. Most of the tally came from the
> decker, and just a little came from the VP. The ICE decieds to kill the
> decker first, then locks out the VP's session, preventing future log in
> attempts. VP fumes, but when shown the system logs indicating that
> the ICE encountered a decker, has to admit that it was "just doing it's
> job". Note that to get the Black ICE, the previous security sheaves found
> something wrong and flaged it, so the ICE has a pretty good idea of
> where the decker is (subject to Masking and Evasion, of course).
>
> System designers who put Black ICE in early sheaves deserve what
> they get (occasional toasted employees).
>
> Double-Domed Mike

So, supposedly, the system traks TOTAL security tally, and also the
amount genrated by each "illegal" user? (disignated HOW, as opposed to
those using "validate passcode", or those "invalidated" by an
intruding
decker?)
HMM, so an easy way for a corp decker to make things tough for an
intruder would be to perform some illegal opps, uppin the tally. A
system crash would piss off the corp, but so would stolen data... And
"invalidating" somebody would be a potential assasination technique...
I'm pretty damn sure I found a passage in VR2 that confirms that
Tallies are NOT global, but I loaned out my anotated copy and only have
the "collectors edition" here. I can't find anything that says they ARE
global, or refers to deckerS, plural, when referencing security
tallies. If tallies are global, frames would be a LOT less useful,
generally having dreck for detection factors...

-Mongoose X

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