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From: Alfredo B Alves <dghost@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Sense Link and Free Spirits
Date: Mon, 25 May 1998 01:33:06 -0500
On Sun, 24 May 1998 23:21:47 EDT Ereskanti <Ereskanti@***.COM> writes:
>In a message dated 5/24/98 8:46:06 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
>dghost@****.COM writes:
>
>> <sthanatos@*********.COM>
>> writes:
>> >Can the Ally spirit power of sense link be used to target someone
for
>> >a spell?

>> I don't think so since Clairvoyance can't be used to target spells
...

>Actually, "Sense Link" can be used for such.

Is it stated By-The-Book somewhere I missed or are you saying since you
can assense through it you cast spells through it? (just wondering)

<SNIP>
>> Actually, I was thinking about spirit powers (Ally and Free Spirit)
>> recently (hypothetically, of course :) For Reference, Ally spirits
are
>> on page 67 and free spirits are on page 76
>>
>> Can a character "ride" a manifest spirit?

>You better explain this one better...

Ok... I was messing around wiff the Beastmaster "Tradition"(?) from the
collected Nagee (which is a source of a couple of other questions :) and
had this idea of a character riding a dragon (or Wyvern ... doesn't
really matter since it's just theoretical :) I was wondering about how
to "realistically" do this ... Since a spirit can manifest in any shape
and a physically manifest spirit can manipulate physical objects (to I
don't know what degree :) so could a spirit act as a mount (aerial or
otherwise) for its summoner?

>> What can you use for an Ally Spirit's Body? (ie for the inhabiting
>> ability) listed are animals (dead?), (meta)humans (dead I assume), or
>> craft a homunculus body ... Anybody use any others? I was thinking
about
>> a mechanical body (as in simple machines [levers and such] not drones
or
>> robotics)

>Any non-paranormal being technically, "non-sentient" (aka, it can't be
used as
>a PC race). The "Harvester Clone" concept has recently been brought up
>though. Please remember, that Ally's within certain shells (Habitation
>Power), do gain benefits to the Body attribute... ;)

The Grimmy states that you can use a human host, but not a sentient host
... so I assume it means dead humans are hokey dokie :) ... This stemed
partly from reading the NAGEE ... Beastmasters can bond with Paranormal
animals and was going to try to define them as Ally Conjuring Adepts and
hope things work out better (I didn't really like the NAGEE version) ...
I hope this doesn't turn into ANOTHER pet project ... that would be the
fifth? The other part of this question comes from Contructs in RM, and
other things elsewhere (I think I heard them referred to as Automatons?)
... Mechanical Constucts magically animated ... Generally look like suits
of armor that move kinda funny. :/ (the standard homunculus bodies would
be Golems)

>> And why can't you use inhabiting with a paranormal body? (ie use the
>> corpse but don't gain paranormal powers?)

>It's simply a rule, basically to keep arguments about "well it's in the
body
>of a paranorm, thus it gets' the paranorm's abilities as well" from
stirring
>up.

:/ Yeah, but "Just so" rules are really annoying ... I don't see why if
you state the paranorm's powers aren't gained you couldn't have the
paranorm form ... (But then again ... do you want free spirits in
Jugernaught forms even without any paranormal powers?)

>> Is there a limit to the number of Allies one magician can have (aside
>> from Magic points)?

>Technically, his/her Charisma, as they do count as a spirit category.

Doh! ... oh yeah :)

>> If a magician with Magic Attribute of 6 summons and binds
(successfully)
>> 6 Allies, does the magician become a mundane?

>IF GEASA rules are followed, potentially not, but By-the-Book, yes, s/he
>becomes a mundane (Burnout).

Hmmm... but are the Magic Points really gone? When said Mage summons the
6th spirit, if s/he becomes a mundane and not all the Allies go free are
the remaining ones still bound to the magician and if they just go back
to the native planes does the magician get the Magic points back and
become a magician again? (I'd assume no)

>> Anybody consider making an Ally Conjuring Adept?

>Yes, but not for very long.

I was thinking of making this as a replacement for the Beastmaster in the
NAGEE. Perhaps at a 15 BPs (or a B priority), the char can do more with
allies than is normally allowed? (the char -Would_ only summon one type
of spirit ...)

>> Do the free spirit powers of Animal form and human form allow for
only
>> one such for or as many forms as the spirit wants?

>Animal Form is by animal (critter) type. Human Form allows for
variation, but
>the stats are the allies regardless of form, beit Troll or Dwarf or
Human
>Baby...

Once again, where do you get this from? :) (I just want to know for
reference) The descript in Grimmy uses a singular tense but is not
definative about it ... :)

>> Why can't a free spirit become a paranormal animal as per Animal (too
>> powerful) or Human (much better) form, manifesting only the critter
>> powers the spirit normally has. (ie a free fire elemental changes
into a
>> hell hound and only manifests the powers of flame projection and
Immunity
>> to fire [in addition to the normal {animal/human} form powers])

>theoretically, it could by appearance, but again, By-the-Book, it
wouldn't
>gain any powers without a direct GM intervention moment...

Actually I was suggesting only using powers the spirit has already ...
(ie a Fire Elemental in Hell Hound form could use Flame Projection and
Fire Immunity because it has those in normal spirit form [actually I
don't know if it has the Immunity to fire, but it should, IMO], but a
Water Elemental wouldn't because it doesn't have those powers normally)
but re-reading the descript, the spirit can still use its powers normally
so If ya want a hell hound, just make the spirit a Black furred Wolf and
voila (almost). :)

<SNIP>
>> Anybody care to speculate on the effects of Hidden Life on "the human
>> will and mind"?

>Please read ... "Striper Assassin", you will get ideas...

Aww... you gonna make me work for it??? ;) actually, -IF- I can find that
book, I'm pretty strapped for cash ATM :(

I was thinking about a char (not a PC) who had the a Spirit hide its life
in him/her (haven't decided yet) and was wonder how much control the
spirit would have over the char or if the char would still be free-willed
...

>> Wow... talk about more questions than answers ;)
<SNIP My Sig>
>Yeah, but no problems with any of 'em... :)
>
>-K

Show off ;)

D.Ghost
(aka Pixel, Tantrum, and RuPixel)
o/~ This is the Post that never ends... It just goes on and on my friends
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