From:	chimerae@***.ie chimerae@***.ie
Subject:	(Fwd) Re: A question...
Date:	Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:51:36 +0000

I got this one back the first time (must be an anti-Ms filter :)

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From: Self <aelfin>
To: shadowrn@*****.html.com
Subject: Re: A question...
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 20:20:02

and thus did Tim Kerby speak on 1 Feb 99 at 20:41:

> Oh, I don't hate people that work for MS. On the contrary. I feel
> sorry for them. I hear they pay shit and treat the same. Hell, look
> at what they did to those thousands of temp employees, and that is
> something we know about.

(since this list is a free for all I can reply :)
I don't think I'm being treated badly so far, the flexible working
hours are nice, first company I work for with a decent cantina with
cheap food, drinks are free, and I'm satisfied with the money. I guess
it depends which side of the fence you are.

> My negative feelings for Microsoft intensified when I went through
> the MCSE certification process for my job. I have never seen a
> program that has such a loathing and contempt for its participants
> as that one. It is designed to make you fail. And then when people
> outsmart it and figure it out, they change the rules. Seems to me
> you would want to encourage people to learn about your products and
> lower your support costs, but I guess that is just me. I guess it
> does create a market for those $1000 support contracts and $1.20 a
> minute support calls, though.

Strange, they must do things differently on this side of the pond.
They're not easy to get, but I know quite a few people who managed to
get whole series of them. As soon as I'm there for 6 months I'll give
them a try and see what's the story with them.


Karina & Martin Steffens
chimerae@***.ie