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From: Jordan findlerman@*****.com
Subject: Psionics 2 (with a little bit of life imitating game thrown in.)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:47:16 -0800 (PST)
> Hi all again,
>
> Thanks for the input.
> But, I was thinking along a slightly different line.
> This one in fact :
>
> Psionics has nothing to do with the sixth world. It is purely a
development
> of the human mind.
>
> Here's a setting :
>
> A team of runners walks in to a hostile bar looking for someone.
> Suddenly one of the teams Sam's seems to go crazy, pulls his gun out
and
> starts spraying hot lead all over the bar.
> The teams mage goes "Hmmm, something not right here. That look's
like mind
> control." The mage goes astral and starts looking for any astrally
active
> people in the room but can't find any cos' our friendly psionicly
active NPC
> is a mundane and is not astrally active. He is just using the power
of his
> mind to control the Sam.
>
> The team then has to subdue the Sam and make a quick exit from the
building.
>
> That's the sort of thing I was thinking about. I want something
that once
> in a while I can throw a curve ball at the players from the rear
when they
> are expecting a fast ball from the front.
>
> What's everyone's take on that idea?

Two words: Too Powerful.

Beyond that, even if we assume that you can be mundane and a psionic,
which i would contest, there would still have to be some kind of trace
of the use of the power on the Astral. OK. For those of you who
dislike this kind of thing, sorry, but the fantasy game is supposed to
be based on fact. There are some out there, I am not one of them, who
believes that they can use Psionics. I am not saying whether they are
using psionic powers or not, I refuse to state my beliefs just because
people feel really strongly one way or the other here. What I can
tell you, is that, according to what I have learned in my research
into what most in today's modern world would cal 'Occult,' I have
heard of people actually astrally projecting into out-of-body
experiences (OBEs). Reguardless of what you think about OBEs, let's
assume that they are true, in order to reason this out logically. OK,
from what I've read in books writen by people who claim to Astrally
Project, these kinds of things that we call magic in Shadowrun, leave
a *very* visable trace on the astral side of things, both the etheric,
and astral. Note of clarification. The shadowrun form of Astral
Projection where the mage leaves his body and goes for an astral spin,
is often referred to as etheric projection, or the projection of the
phantom, by most occultist. What the call projection into the astral
planes *very* closely resembles what FASA describes as Meta-planes.
On both the etheric and astral planes, there is a very visible sign of
people who bend spoons with the power of their mind, make candles go
out, just by staring at it and other such things. OK. Let's say that
those people who can and do do this stuff are magically active. Even
those who profess it to be the power of mind-over-matter leave traces
on the astral. They are magically active, even if they do not believe
in it, at least from the view of the people who see auras (astral
perception).

I've gotta wrap this up.

I apologize for offending anyone, and please spare me any 'you are
going to hell for think that such things might exist' speaches. Once
again, i am not taking a stance on 'occultism,' just trying to use a
real life reference to reason this out.

Hasta Luego,

--Fin
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