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From: Kyoto the Angel dann1@********.erols.com
Subject: Psionics 2 (with a little bit of life imitating game thrown in.)
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:53:02 -0500
>Two words: Too Powerful.
>
>Beyond that, even if we assume that you can be mundane and a psionic,
>which i would contest, there would still have to be some kind of trace
>of the use of the power on the Astral. OK. For those of you who
>dislike this kind of thing, sorry, but the fantasy game is supposed to
>be based on fact. There are some out there, I am not one of them, who
>believes that they can use Psionics. I am not saying whether they are
>using psionic powers or not, I refuse to state my beliefs just because
>people feel really strongly one way or the other here. What I can
>tell you, is that, according to what I have learned in my research
>into what most in today's modern world would cal 'Occult,' I have
>heard of people actually astrally projecting into out-of-body
>experiences (OBEs). Reguardless of what you think about OBEs, let's
>assume that they are true, in order to reason this out logically. OK,
>from what I've read in books writen by people who claim to Astrally
>Project, these kinds of things that we call magic in Shadowrun, leave
>a *very* visable trace on the astral side of things, both the etheric,
>and astral. Note of clarification. The shadowrun form of Astral
>Projection where the mage leaves his body and goes for an astral spin,
>is often referred to as etheric projection, or the projection of the
>phantom, by most occultist. What the call projection into the astral
>planes *very* closely resembles what FASA describes as Meta-planes.
>On both the etheric and astral planes, there is a very visible sign of
>people who bend spoons with the power of their mind, make candles go
>out, just by staring at it and other such things. OK. Let's say that
>those people who can and do do this stuff are magically active. Even
>those who profess it to be the power of mind-over-matter leave traces
>on the astral. They are magically active, even if they do not believe
>in it, at least from the view of the people who see auras (astral
>perception).
>
>I've gotta wrap this up.
>
>I apologize for offending anyone, and please spare me any 'you are
>going to hell for think that such things might exist' speaches. Once
>again, i am not taking a stance on 'occultism,' just trying to use a
>real life reference to reason this out.
>
So, what you're saying, basically, is that, if people did indeed have these
"psychic" powers, nowadays, in our modern world, it's because they're of the
select few that have already started becoming magically active?

If that's not what you're saying, then it is what I'm saying. I would most
definitely say that psionics falls under the category of being magically
active. But, that's just me, who knows, maybe FASA will address this in
Magic in the Shadows (if it ever comes out)

Kyoto the Angel
AIM: AngelKyoto
ICQ: 29713335

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