From:	David Buehrer dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject:	Simsense and Astral Perception
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 07:46:04 -0700 (MST)

For the mere cost of a Thaum, Ereskanti@***.com wrote:
/
/ In a message dated 2/16/1999 2:51:02 PM US Eastern Standard Time,
/ dbuehrer@******.carl.org writes:
/
/ > I don't think so K :)
/
/ Well I don't really care ;-P (drops chocolate Tim Tam crumbs while he's
/ typing)

No Fair! How can you possibly expect me to effectively debate my side when
you have Tim Tams on your side?! ;)

/ > IMHO when a person is perceiving astrally they are almost, but not
/ > quite, projecting astrally. Their preception of the astral plane is
/ > being made by their astral form, not their physical form. Because they
/ > haven't projected astrally, they are able to retain their physical
/ > perceptions. This is also explains why a person who is astrally
/ > perceiving is dual natured.
/
/ And, as such, their physical "mundane" body is translating information that
/ their mind (which isn't physiologically any different than a mundane's) can
/ comprehend.

My fault, I didn't explain my point well.

When a person is astrally projecting they are perceiving the astral
plane with their astral form. IMO the brain does not play a role.
True, the meat body may twitch when the astral form is injured or
stressed but I feel that this is an autonomic response. I don't feel
that the process of information while astrally projecting involves the
brain.

I also feel that when a person is astrally perceiving that the brain
isn't involved at all. The perception of the astral and the processing
of this perception are handled by the perceiver's astral form and again
the brain is not involved.

I believe that that is why you can't record astral perception with
simsense. The act of astral perception and the processing of that
perception take place soley on the astral plane.

IMHO astral preception is 100% astral/spiritual.

/ > I don't think it's a cut and dried rulling. I think it's an attempt to
/ > maintain consistency with SR magic theory.
/
/ Oh, so do I ultimately, but IMO, it's simply a cop-out at this time.

Well, :) it may in fact be a cop out and I may be working to hard at
try to convince myself that the designers had the same idea I have.

-David B.
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