From:	Rand Ratinac docwagon@*******.com
Subject:	Breeder definition
Date:	Wed, 17 Feb 1999 23:11:41 PST

>From: GRANITE
>Sent: Thursday, February 18, 1999 12:23 AM
>
>>>...... Were there transformation into elves and dwarves to start
>>> with?
>>
>>Nope..they are born that way..or existed prior to the awakening..
>>This is an old one ..But I'm recovered now..
>
>Okay. Now give me chapter and verse, since your answer didn't help me
or
>the discussion I'm having a bit, and it's not very convincing as
stated.
>
>As I said (or at least implied) before: There's *no* way that there
are as
>many elves and dwarves in the world as there are without *some* of them
>transforming as the mana threshold crested in the 2011-2017 timeframe.
>There aren't *that* many IEs running about, nor can you convince me
that
>there were that many spike babies. There are too many old elves
running
>around for all (or any, for that matter) of them to have been born
since
>2011.
>
>So I have to ask, in conjunction with the severly truncated question
above:
>What's the official FASA line on this? Mike M.? Steve K.?
>
>--
>(>) Texas 2-Step
> El Paso: Never surrender. Never forget. Never forgive.

Okay, have we heard of UGE before? Unidentified Genetic Expression I
believe the term is.

Starting in 2011, elves and dwarves started being BORN as elves as
dwarves. Come to think of it, though, I've never heard of any elves or
dwarves 'goblinising' - at least, not that I can think of off the top of
my head.

AFAIK, any elves or dwarves born before 2011 were spike babies, who were
ALWAYS elves and dwarves.

Of course, I SUSPECT Patrick is right and that some of them must have
'changed' from being normal humans.

Then again, if you get into the whole IE conspiracy thing, it's possible
that there WERE an extremely large amount of spike babies born leading
up to the Awakening and that the IEs and other spike babies were doing
their best to keep their younger kin concealed until the Awakening
happened and there was no longer any point to it.

I just finished reading "Never Trust an Elf" today and in there it
mentioned that Sean Laverty (who is probably an IE, but masquerades as
just a spike baby in the book) ran a place called the Xavier Foundation
for 'gifted children' or 'special children' or something like that
(who's been reading too many X-men comics, hmmm?). Anyway, the point is,
if Laverty was running a place which, in all probability, scooped up
spike babies wherever it found them and hid them away from a suspicious
world, why not the other IEs?

So...that's my...hmmm...approximately US 1.2 cents worth on the matter.
My advice, Patrick - read the history section in SRII or SR3. If it says
that elves and dwarves 'expressed' there, then you have your answer. If
it doesn't...well, it could just be a cover-up. :)

*Doc' concentrates really hard, trying to grow...Vulcan ears...yeah,
that's right...Vulcan ears...*

Doc'

.sig Sauer

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