| From: | Marc Renouf renouf@********.com |
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| Subject: | Simsense and Astral Perception |
| Date: | Mon, 22 Feb 1999 09:19:00 -0500 (EST) |
> Yes Marc, it does, but since you apparently won't give ground towards my
> end/possibility, I won't give the ground on yours for this topic. David B.
> came up with a much simpler, far easier way, to reach a potential than you
> have.
Sorry to break it to you, but Dave and I are saying essentially
the exact same thing. He's just better at stating it simply, I guess. :)
> as I can give my point and yours all at the same time now (something you
> apparently won't or can't consider).
Don't be stupid. I'd be perfectly willing to recant my position
on the topic if you gave me a single *good* argument. You have not. I
guess it boils down to the fact that Dave and I have a view that is not
only internally consistent, but more than adequately explains why the
material in the published rules is the way it is.
Your view, on the other hand, poses some serious problems for
simsense as it exists as written in the game, and fails to explain the
published material. I guess I see that as a "lose/lose" situation.
> It's simply going to be one of those "we simply disagree" things I guess.
If that's what it takes. Like I said, give me an argument that
makes sense and I'll buy it. As it is, I get the impression that you only
read about 1/10th of any of my posts, because I thought I had refuted each
of your points in enough depth to make myself clear. Either that or I'm
just not wording things correctly.
> -K (because you haven't considered memory yet to it's fullest in this part of
> things)
Here we go again. This is another situation where we differ in
opinion about what simsense is capable of. Both I and the published rules
make it *very* clear that simsense records only the sensory/emotive
information. Are you maintaining that it actually records memory? Give
me a reference for this, as nothing I've ever seen about simsense backs
up this point of view. If it did record memory, there would be no need of
skillwires, would there? You could just get the benefit of someone else's
years or decades of experience directly. Since this is not the case, it
would imply that memory is not, and in fact can not be recorded directly.
Alternately, if you're talking about "reverse sensation" of
sensory/emotive parts of the brain firing in response to memories, I'd
like references (other than the ones I've already seen) that say that this
is in any way something other than very minor sympathetic neural activity.
I have a hard time believing that just by mnemonically "visualizing" a
place or object that your visual cortex would sympathetically fire
strongly enough to be able to give any meaningful signal for recording.
This also doesn't address the fact that if astral perception is an
entirely new sense, that reverse sensation is going on somewhere
completely separate from the normal sensory/emotive centers normally
wired for ASIST recording. So remembering someone's aura causes
that area to be sympathetically stimulated, not the visual cortex. Hence,
even reverse sensation won't cause anyone to be able to "see" astral
space in response to a memory.
Marc
