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From: Robert Watkins robert.watkins@******.com
Subject: HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPp
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:10:08 +1000
Scott Peterson writes:
> To be honest I thought we were a family and would support each other and
> understand that in development things take time. To those who thought I
> would snatch and grab whitout giving credit to what ever i
> borrowed Im sorry
> shows that things just arent well in this world....You look at my
> pages and
> if you see something thats yours and you dont want there tell me its
> gone....but Im sorry any exposure to something this big internetconferance
> 99 might help you...

*sigh* Scott, you missed the point. It's not wether you tell people you're
using their graphics... you should NEVER have gone ahead and used them
without getting their prior, explicit, permission. You should NEVER have put
the pages on a public web server without said permission being obtained. And
you should NEVER have asked for us to help you scan in images before the
permission from FASA was obtained, and without that permission being quoted
and verifiable.

People shouldn't have to look at your pages and tell you that you shouldn't
have used their stuff. You shouldn't have used it in the first place.

In many ways, this is a sort of family. And what you've done is analogous to
taking your big sister's best clothes and wearing them at a family reunion
(this analogy would work a lot better if you were female, you know). It's
one thing to do it with permission, it's a totally different thing to do it
without asking, especially as you'll probably stretch out her stockings.

Sincerely, though... we'd love nothing better than to scan in FASA's artwork
and send you a copy, if we had permission. But you're not going to get that
permission. FASA has denied it before, because in many cases the artwork is
not the sole property of FASA. Rights to the artwork frequently belongs to
(or is shared with) the artist, and FASA can't give you carte blanche rights
to copy it. Even if they wanted to.

Get accustomed to the idea that you'll have to drop all those cover pictures
and art excerpts. Note that using a logo would be different: Logos are
registered trademarks, and can be reproduced provided that the trademark is
recognised. Provided, of course, that the logo IS a registered trademark (I
_believe_, but I'm not sure, that the SR logo is a registered trademark. It
will tell you in the contents section of your BBB). All of this gets back to
putting the recognition on the primary point of entry). Look at Deep
Resonance for an example of how to do it right.

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.sig deleted to conserve electrons. robert.watkins@******.com

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