From:	GMPax@***.com GMPax@***.com
Subject:	Viper Errata
Date:	Tue, 9 Mar 1999 13:46:02 EST

In a message dated 3/9/99 1:34:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, renouf@*****
int.com writes:

> Actually, you're thinking of "needler" ammunition as described in
> the Neo-Anarchists' Guide to Real Life. Flechette ammunition works fine
> no matter how much armor you have (though it does use Ballistic or double
> Impact, whichever is higher).

I apply it to ALL FL grade ammunition. Ever seen a Vindicator Minigun firing
(hideously expensive) dikoted flechette ammo at full 15-round minigun
Autofire? UGH.

> And even if you do have enough armor to drop 12D down to 2D,
> (10/5 or better is what would be required) that's still a pretty
> ridiculous number of successes. You'd need a Body of 8 to even have a
> *chance* to stage the damage down to nothing, assuming the shooter got
> zero net successes.

More like a 2S, since any armor, even one point, cuts the +1 staging off of
the FL ammunition. Lose the benefits AND suffer the doubled armor rating.

I also use layered armor, per FoF. That means, a 7/3 or 6/2 is not all that
hard to get, with perfectly legal armor. That goes to 7/6 or 6/4 versus
flechettes. The same 12D burst becomes 12S, then goes down to either a 6S or
8S. About right for a burst-fire heavy pistol (which IMO the Ares Viper IS,
remember).

> Doesn't that strike you as a little high for a pistol with a
> concealability of 7?

Nope. God help you if a cop DOES find it on you. the ONLY use for it is
MURDER; it's not a self defense gun by ANY means.

Except maybe out in the woods, where it's use against predators might justify
it.

Besides, I just think the concept is cool. :-)

Sean
GM Pax