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From: Paul Gettle RunnerPaul@*****.com
Subject: T-shirt time!
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 1999 23:21:54 -0500
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At 09:42 PM 3/19/99 -0600, dghost@****.com wrote:
>>This was mentioned a while back, but didn't someone nominate a
>>cyberpunkish drawing of Hello Kitty to be a possible design for this
>>year's shirt?
>
>I thought YOU did that...

Me? No, I was just looking for a piece of Cyberpunk Hello Kitty art,
someone _else_ said "Wow, that's a cool idea for the list shirt." :)

>>Of course, someone would have to draw one first, which may be a
>>problem.
>
>I think someone mentioned that could incur copyright problems ... I
>SHOULD be able do it though if we can be certain there will be no
>copyright problems ...

I believe that this would fall under the category of parody. Plus I
hardly see us being a threat by any means to legitimate Hello Kitty
market share. Besides, isn't the list shirt an entirely non-profit
effort?

If this were being done in large volumes, and to make money by taking
away sales directly from official Hello Kitty merchandise, then I
could see the lawyers coming after us over it, but as is, we wouldn't
be worth wasting lawyer's billable hours on. It's not like anyone on
the list has piles and piles of money to make a tempting lawsuit
target.

It's true that there have been lawsuits over t-shirts that were
intended as obvious parodies, in recent history. The most recent one
that comes to mind was when children's television icon, Mr. Rogers,
sued Gadzooks Clothing Stores over a t-shirt featuring everyone's
favorite sweater wearing neighbor wielding a .44 magnum revolver.
However, that lawsuit involved a large national store chain, with
several dozen stores each selling the shirts by the caseload.

>Does that make the list's logo "Where Hello Kitty meets magic and
>machine?"
>=^.^
It's certainly appropriate for this particular t-shirt design.

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