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From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: Red Dot Sights
Date: Thu, 01 Jul 1999 14:24:15 -0400
At 11.36 07-01-99 -0500, you wrote:
> Besides wider field of view and brighter indicator, do Red Dot Sights
>have any advantage over "tradtional" scopes with crosshairs? Both indicate

1. YOu can use them with both eyes open, which is hard to do with (IME)
with telescopics.
2. Telescopic sights reduce your field of view. Since a red-dot sight
does not, you don't have to hunt for the target.

>point of impact more accurately than an iron sight- the Red Dot is just
>easier to see, no?

No. The difference is hard to explain, but easy to experince.
Red-dots are fairly large, usually over three MOA (1 MOA covers one inch
at 100 yards), with most closer to 6-8 MOA. A good long-range scope can
have markings as small as a tenth of an MOA. At three-hundred
yards/meters, the red dot sight will cover the human head. Without
magnification, the wires would not. 300 might sound like a long way, but
in the hands of a skilled marksman, a GOOD SMG can make hits on a
human-torso-sized object at that distance, if the shooter knows how much
drop to compenate for.
There are other differences, but they aren't really explainable. How to
you explain the taste of something who has never eaten one, especially when
there is nothing like it.

> I still say its simpler and plenty effective just to assume a Red Dot
>sight IS an image magnification scope- any such scope would normally have

If it is a telescopic sight, even if it is fitted with a dot reticle, it
is still a telescopic sight. The only way I would see treating it any
differently is if you would let a scope with a "conventional" reticle
combine with a laser sight.
A red dot SIGHT has no magnification. That is why it is fast- you don't
have to hunt for the target.

>such a capabilty, or something very similar. Would you buy a mag scope that
>did NOT have a crosshairs?

I own one, thank you. It works very well, once you know how to use a
scope properly. It uses a ring reticle, and is designed for hitting things
that are moving at the expense of some precision, but not much. Once you
know how to use it. :)

> Is it so costly to illuminate said crosshairs,
>especially given 205X level tech?

It isn't expensive now, maybe a hundred. (Not that bad when good scopes
start at $200 and go from there.) The real advantage to that would be in
low-light conditions, where crosshairs can get lost.

Try your local library. A lot of them have books on marksmanship and
firearms. If that doesn't work, and you live in the States, talk to
someone who runs a gun store So long as you are respectful, and don't look
like some piece of gutter scum, they will probably be willing to show you
the difference if they have a red dot in stock.


CyberRaven Kevin Dole
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat int he face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"Briar Rabbit to Briar Fox; I was BORN in that briar patch!"

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