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From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Drones and Weapon Mounts
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 1999 19:51:06 +0200
According to IronRaven, at 10:27 on 12 Jul 99, the word on
the street was...

> >*looks over shoulder*
> >*gets up*
> >*holds hand next to cartridge*
> >
> >The projectile is about the length of my index finger :)
>
> Gurth, they let you OWN an anti-tank cannon in the Neatherlands!?!

Of course they do. That is, as long as you're the Air Force squadron that
operates our AH-64s ;)

> I'm talking about 30mm, the stuff we use on the Apache, not .30 caliber.

So was I. I have a 30x113 mm cannon shell standing on shelf behind me,
next to a number of other cartridge cases of various calibers and related
items, including a Russian 40 mm practice grenade. All of it's been fired,
of course. (Technically, a few of the items are illegal because there are
projectiles in the casings, even though they're otherwise empty.)

> If we are talking about the same thing.....
> How hard is it to learn Dutch?

Easy, but then I was brought up speaking it :) At any rate, firearms laws
are _very_ strict here. Not as strict as they've apparently become in the
UK in recent years, but it's nowhere _near_ as easy as in the US to get a
firearm, or even accessories. Empty magazines, for example, are illegal
unless you have a permit for the associated weapon (which means I'm
breaking the law here too, BTW).

> Cool. I kinda figured that the Whisper family took over the rifle/MG
> world when I saw a lot of silencers and the range table, and promptly
> redesigned the one from Plastic Warriors.

You've lost me here...

> It also fits my interpretation of the SM-3 as a hitter's weapon, not a
> field weapon.

That's the impression I got as well, especially because it can be
disassembled and comes with a "standard briefcase." If the text had said a
carrying case, it might have been different, but with a normal-looking
briefcase to store a rifle in, the primary application seems clear enough
to me.

It could be, of course, that there is a military version of the SM-3 as
well, one that can't be disassembled in the same way but is more rugged to
stand up to military use.

> >Neither have I, but my guess is Dennis has seen an M82 sniper rifle or
>
> I've fired one- it isn't as big as he was describing, and the recoil on
> the Barrets guns is not much worse than a hot slug in a light 12 gauge.

Perhaps both of us should find the movie and see what it actually is that
was described :)

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