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From: arcady@***.net arcady@***.net
Subject: Spirit of the land and it's people
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 99 16:41:34 +700
>Arcady writes:
>> This is very different from an invasion of a region by people wholey not
from
>> that region and with no historical connection to it. This is
>> still Europeans warring internally. So the land is not having it's kind displaced

>> in the same way that could be said of the British invasion of Australia.

>
>Arcady, saying that's like "Europeans warring internally" is like saying
>that a hypothetical war between the Apache and the Inuit are just a bunch of

>Amerindians hitting each other.
>
>Europe is extremely cultural diverse.

Yes it is. But it is also homogenous in relation to external regions. And adding
the 'just' in there takes things out of context. Otherwise yes, if an Apache
and an Inuit where in a conflict it would make sense to say you had two Native
Americans in a conflict.

>> No matter how many differences there may be between different European tribes;

>> they are still closer to each other in physical, cultural, and
>> spiritual makeup than they are to say, an Apache, Aboriginee, or Vietnamese.

>
>Physical: there's not much difference between any of them. Cultural and
>"spiritual" differences have nothing to do with race, Arcady.

So then you're saying an Apache is more like an Aboriginee than a Frenchman
is like an Englishman?

You've got two opposing points above. Which one are you standing on?

Viewed externally Europeans are all very similar to each other. Just as viewed
externally North American Indians are all very similar. At least in relation
to how they compare to other groups outside their region. There are, like it
or not; logical groupings that different ethnicities can fall under.
If you can't see that a Frenchman, a Russian, a Englishman, a Kosovar, and a
Romanian all have certain common elements that define them both physically and
culturally then you're definately not living in the real world.

Those elements may be very diverse. But in relation to how similar they are
to a Ugandan or an Incan or an Inuit they are very similar.

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