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From: Manx timburke@*******.com.au
Subject: Desperate Pathetic Magic Question
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 19:14:59 +1000
At 18:49 15/07/99 -0400 Jyster Cap responds
>>>
>> > One of the players in my game (who was our
>> > _former_ SR2 GM) insists that his street sam
>> > with thermo cybereyes can see me when I cast
>> > Improved Invisibility on myself. He claims that
>> > this spell effects only visible light and as such
>> > that thermographic vision does not utilise the
>> > normal spectrum of human vision. As it stands
>> > every dumb turd with thermo can see me
>> > when I use the spell. It defeats the purpose.
>
>In 2nd or 3rd edition, people with thermographic
>vision can see someone who is invisible. Invisibility
>makes it so people cant see you with normal vision, it does not lower
>your body temperature.
>_________________________________________________________

Sure invisibility _doesn't_ lower your body temperature
but it DOES effect the mind of the viewer. My argument
is that as thermo vision relies on the infra-red spectrum
and humans with thermo cybereyes can see the
infrared spectrum _because_ they have paid essence
for their eyes. In doing so the thermo is considered to be
normal vision. If it's not considered normal vision
then how does a mage with cybereyes target a line
of sight spell?

Getting back to my reply to you as II is a indirect illusion
spell and not a physical manipulation it makes
the viewer's mind perceive that nothing is there as opposed
to actually bending the light. If this is the case then it
should also effect thermo as well.

In any case I note with interest that the description of
ImpInvis in SR2 and in SR3 is different. I think that the
decision by FASA to remove the sentence that clearly
states that Thermo is unaffected from SR2 to SR3 says
it all IMO.

Sorry I'm edgy but I've got a game session starting
in about 15 minutes and I'm collating the replies
to this thread to show my GM.

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Manx // timburke@*******.com.au // #950
"It's always funny until someone gets hurt
and then it's just hilarious." - Faith No More
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