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From: Gurth gurth@******.nl
Subject: Value and so on....
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 1999 16:51:35 +0200
According to IronRaven, at 7:52 on 16 Jul 99, the word on
the street was...

> For our non-US members, most of you are not citizens, you are subjects.

Bullshit. I am a staatsburger -- literally translated, a "state's
citizen." And I am to be treated exactly the same as anyone else in this
country, whether citizen or not, with the exception of members of the
royal family.

> Look it up in your legal codes. In the courts, you ARE subjects. Oxford
> defines subject, in this tense as "under the power of authority". Your
> governments recieve no authority from you at the most basic levels.

??? Please elaborate, I don't understand what you mean at all.

> For American memebers- read the the Decleration, Constitution and the
> Amendments. I have but one complaint with the uthors of the Bill of
> Rights,and that is that they numbered things. But it is not thier fault
> that thier decendents would be so stupid and complacent as to not actually
> read the writings by the authors, which say that they were NOT ordered by
> importance, but they are in the order the authors thought of them in. They
> also wanted to stay under ten, becuase they had some idea about the future
> generations. Why else do you think most of the Amendments cram so much
> stuff into one package? Why do you think only two discuss a single issue?

Because of an obsession with virtually non-existant tradition?

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