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From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: Value and so on....
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 1999 09:44:06 -0400
At 23.39 07-16-99 -0400, you wrote:
>Why? I think that is perfectly reasonable. I think that if the person has
>"violent tendencies" then they should not be allowed to have any sort of
>thing which would be used to kill someone from far away. Like guns.

I agree with you on this point, as does any (semi-)sane and resonable
person. However, you are talking about manditory psych testing. That was
tried in the early seventies ar some small college someplace. The Supremem
Court didn't like it very much. They classified it as "prior restraint",
which is a violation of the 4th, 5th, and maybe the 6th Ammend's (don't
rememeber if it is a 6th violation, been a while). They decided that it
sorta flew in the face of "guilty until proven innocent".
Now, if someone shows violently anti-social behavior in school (and not
just ebing a loner) or commits a crime, you may be able to wrangle it. But
manditory mental health testing for everyone, even if they did not display
any behaviors that could be considered symptomatic of violent or dangerous
disorders, could be fought on so many different levels. The first one is
"manditory treatment", which is considered a violation of the 1st
Ammendment and the unwriten right to privacy.


>shot up their schools were responsible for their children's actions. They
>raised them, they allowed the kids' minds to be warped, THEY ARE TO

OK, by that argueement, parents are eternally considered to be accessories
to the crimes of thier off-spring? Even though they (the parents) didn't
do anything illegal?
At a certain age, I can see. However, at some point, you have to figure
that children know the difference between right and wrong, and can think
for themselves. I'm sure that we can all think of a firend that is a
productive, positive memeber of society, but thier parents also produced a
total waste of space. Who is to blame?
Nature is not totally responsable, nor is Nurture. It sounds like you
dumping it all at Nurture.

>Same thing! Lock up the negligent parents and throw away the key. Or at
>least neuter and spay them so they won't reproduce more demon spawn ;^).

So what do you recommend for parents that are responsible yet thier kid
still ends up a worthless lump of chemicals and water? It happens.


CyberRaven
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat int he face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"'Impossible' is a term used by those little imagination or intelligence to
describe that which they can not understand."

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