From:	Quindrael D.N.M.vanNederveen@****.warande.ruu.nl
Subject:	Value and so on....
Date:	Sat, 17 Jul 1999 18:17:55 +0200

>Don't know. I do know that in America,

OK, I'll stop here. That's I think the whole problem. People (and also
small criminals) in America are som much different than here in Europe. Of
course, if you change regulations in a small part of it, not much will
change. Guns are still easy to get by in comparison to Holland, even in DC,
because they still are easy to get in the rest of America and easily
transported. And the mentality of both "good" citizens and the crooks won't
change when you make the laws stricter (however, if we would change them
here, i.e. make them less strict, I think mentality will unfortunately
change much easier).

OK, we won't change America short-term if we would ban all weapons
throughout the country, _because hardly anyone would follow it_. Most
people would keep their guns, and think they were in their right if they
used them. Hey, I never said you don't have a right to defend yourself
against a criminal, I really think you do; problem is, I think that it only
makes it (them) worse. It's still a fact, that in Holland we have
statistically less deaths of people defending their home than in America
(even if people defend themselves and get hit, most times it's not by a gun
but by a hand, sap, in extreme cases a knife or metal pipe, whatever, and
they survive). And also statistically less deaths under the people who do
_not_ defend their home but just let the crooks go their way. OK, maybe
(MAYBE - maybe not, as they cannot defend _themselves_ better because they
have no gun either) the crooks get away a few more times, but in my view,
for a lower cost.

VrGr David

"Shapes of angels the night casts lie dead but dreaming in my past and
they're here, they want to meet you, they want to play with you, so take
the dream."
(Fields of the Nephilim - "Sumerland (what dreams may come)")

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