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From: David Hinkley dhinkley@***.org
Subject: [OT] Vietnam lesson (kinda long) (Was Re: Values and so on...)
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 23:08:43 -0700
Date sent: Sun, 18 Jul 1999 18:27:02 +0100
To: shadowRN@*********.org
From: "Paul J. Adam" <Paul@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [OT] Vietnam lesson (kinda long) (Was Re: Values and so on...)
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[SNIP]
> "True democracy" would have seen Ho Chi Minh elected in 1956.

Nope..."True Democracy" would have had Ho Chi Minh admited to the
Versailles Peace Negotiations in 1918. He showed up as a representive of
the Vietnamese people. In response to Wilson's self determination
statements. Insted he was welcomed by the Communists who were holding
on of the Internationals at the same time.

[SNIP]
>
> > I put loss in quotes because the US military DIDN'T lost the Vietnam
> >conflict. They did what they were supposed to do: keep the South Vietnamese
> >afloat and "free and democratic".
>
> Only if bouncing from coup to coup is "democracy".
>
> >At the signing of the Peace Accords (whatever
> >they were) the US said that if the North attacked the South, it would attack the
> >North again. The North started the fighting again, the politicians did nothing.
> >The South fought valiantly, but was overwhelmed.

By the invasion by a conventional Armored force.




David Hinkley
dhinkley@***.org
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