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From: Marc Renouf renouf@********.com
Subject: Starting equiptment
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 1999 11:08:02 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 19 Jul 1999, Arcady wrote:

> They do however monitor you. I know several vets who worked in top secret
> projects and they all had to report on their actions and travel plans on a
> regular basis and whenever going overseas. They had to get approval for many
> things and were restricted from many places of travel.

Even civilian contractors who work with classified systems or data
are subject to this kind of monitoring and restriction. The military is
pretty careful about things like letting information go leaking away.
That's not to say it doesn't happen, just that they take steps to prevent
it.

> The military doesn't hand out it's sensitive data nor it's equipment
> lightly.

They also classify some of the stupidest shit. There's stuff that
considered "top secret" that half the American populace either knows
already or could guess at. And don't even get me started on classified
data. There's satellite image data out there from the 70's that's still
classified, even after the actual sensor that took the data was
declassified and retired. It's not like they're giving any secrets away
about the system's performance parameters, and it wouldn't matter if they
were. It's not even that the subject matter in the imagery is a matter of
national security. Some of the researchers I work with would *love* to
get their hands on high resolution satellite data for boreal fire scar
tracking, monitoring sea lion populations, or getting a better idea of how
ice forms on the open ocean. But the declassification process is
ridiculously internecine (for a good reason to be sure), making it take
far too long and cost far too much.
Ironically, until recently if you wanted high resolution satellite
imagery, you had to go to the Russians, because they were the only ones
selling it.

Marc Renouf (ShadowRN GridSec - "Bad Cop" Division)

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