| From: | Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com |
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| Subject: | Ritual Magic and who's of the same tradition? |
| Date: | Tue, 27 Jul 1999 01:30:13 -0400 (EDT) |
together...
> Yet MitS also blurs things a bit on what is a magical tradition.
> In the basic book there are two traditions: Mage and Shaman.
> In MitS there are things like Wuxing, Islamic Mages, Witchcraft, and
so on.
> Now, an Islamic mage is still a mage. So are they in the same
tradition as a basic mage?
No. I'll elaborate below.
> And how about two witches one who is a shaman and one who is a mage?
In MitS they would seem to be the same tradition;
No, they aren't.
> but in the basic book they would not be.
>
> So what sort of definition of "Tradition" is being called for in
ritual magic?
> Arcady http://www.jps.net/arcady/ <0){{{{><
IMNSHO, I think that you have to satisfy BOTH conditions, not one or
the other, to be considered to be of the same tradition. I'm pretty
sure that's what MitS is getting at.
See, in order to do a ritual together, you need to see magic in the
same way. That's why there's the tradition restriction. How a mage and
a shaman view magic clashes, so they just can't work together when
they're trying to do something like a ritual.
Next - how similar do you think a druid's and a wuxing's view of magic
are? Totally bipolar (or very nearly), whether they're both mages or
not. So they don't belong to the same tradition.
And don't tell me you think the English hermetic druids and the Celtic
shamanic druids have anything in common as far as the magic goes.
To belong to the same tradition as someone, your view of magic MUST be
the same. A mage witch and a shamanic witch, although both witches, see
magic very differently. Same for a wuxing mage and an islamic mage -
very different outlook on magic.
So - there are two parts to the magic formula and both must be the same
in order for two magickers to belong to the same tradition. Part one -
mage or shaman. Part two - hermetic, druid, witch, wuxing etc. etc.
etc.
*Doc' thinks there should be a third part to that to allow...Geek Mages!*
==Doc'
(aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of Tomorrow)
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