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From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: Gun Disposal
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 1999 10:42:06 -0400
At 22.43 08-10-99 EDT, you wrote:
>As I mentioned, I work at a gun store, so this is my business :-)

I'm a learning smith, and two of my grandfathers are fully-trained smiths
for about a century of work between them, and among the rest of the family,
we have about the same amount. In my immediate family (within a twenty
minute drive and we talk a couple times a week), there are six FFL holders,
and we've all worked with Tittle III fireamrs. (Hell, I learned to shoot
on a supressed Browning .22) I've been working with guns since I was six,
and the only time in my life that I've not had them nearby is when I'm away
at college or traveling. I've also had a certain amount of advanced
training with them. So I guess you could say that this is my "buisness" as
much as it is yours. :-)

(A 6-foot red head, nicely formed and legs up to here might get my
attention if she is wearing Channel #5, but if she is wearing Hoppe's #9,
she is going to be asked if she is married. <g>)

>also, teh HK91 I have, with the other barrel, it kinda disagreed with you
>telling me I was wrong :-)

I discussed the possibility of putting an MP-5 barrel on an SP-89 with an
HK armourer. (If a man is working the law-enforcement table in HK's booth
at the Shot Show, and his company tag says he's an armour, I"m going to
listen to him.) He said no dice, and proceeded to point out why with the
help of some nice photos and technical diagrams. (MP-5 barrel could be
machined to fit in about half an hour, but I'm talking stock arms.) I've
also seen HK-33s and HK-93s broken down side-by-side, and the barrels are
different, undoubtedly due to the face that the -33's barrel is a hair too
short for NFA. It is possible, never having compaired them side-by-side or
pictures of the barrels, that the G-3 and HK-91 use the same barrel, but I
doubt it based on the pattern displayed by the rest of the family, and
would want to see certified imagery on that, since the price list I saw
there listed the G-3 and HK-91 barrels at different prices. (I was trying
to find a factory barrel for a friend at a good price.)
As for the Uzi, I watched someone try to test fit a spare IMI 16" barrel
onto a Singaporean manufactured Uzi at a full-auto shoot/show (I would like
to know how that got in before the '86 restrictions). I was surprised when
it was no go, but I should also qualify my statement- the barrels probably
do interchange, the barrel nuts don't, and I can't imagine that anyone is
stupid enough to make a barrel that will place torque ont he barrel
retaining mechanism in the direction that will loosen it. I also can't
imagine that CIS would reverse the thread direction on something that
critical, considering that there are how many of these things in the world
and that they have legal liscnese to manufacture.
Also, there is a restriction on underlength barrels. If it is designed
expressly for a shouldarm and it is under NFA length, it is a "destructive
device".

> of course, I still assume it easier to buy a bunch of barrels for a few
>guns, as opposed to buying a bunch of guns.

Try looking at the underground market sometime. Having relatives in
Federal law enforcements means you can get all kinds of info for free.


Kevin Dole, aka CyberRaven, aka IronRaven, aka Steel Tengu
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat int he face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"'Impossible' is a term used by those of little imagination or intelligence
to describe that which they can not understand."

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