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From: Rand Ratinac docwagon101@*****.com
Subject: Confused about Magical Adepts...
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 01:54:20 -0700 (PDT)
This is a resend, as my message appears to have disappeared into the
bottomless black hole of Jackpoint...

--- Rand Ratinac <docwagon101@*****.com> wrote:
> <Snippola(TM)>
> > I realize that, and this makes them the equal of
> every other magician
> - both full-blown A priority mages and B priority
> aspected magicians. I
> don't see how this should impact their ability to
> advance in power with
> initiation. Plus, they're already splitting their
> focus as it is, and
> are not the equal of either a full-blown mage or
> full-blown adept in
> terms of raw power. Not allowing them to have a
> power point when their
> magic rating goes up is putting them even further
> behind the power
> curve. To wit:
> >
> > A priority mage / B priority aspected mage, grade
> 2 initiate:
> > magic rating: 8
> > max force of spell: 8
> > max metamagic techniques: 2
> >
> > Adept, grade 2:
> > magic rating: 8
> > power points: 8-10
> > metamagic techniques: 0-2
> >
> > Magician adept, grade 2:
> > magic rating: 8
> > power points: 6-8
> > max force of spell: 1-7
> > metamagic techniques: 0-2
> <Snippage(TM)>
> > Personally, I think that they should get the power
> point with their
> magic increase. It only makes sense that everyone
> gets the same basic
> benefit from initiation. I DON'T think, however,
> that they should get
> the option of a second power point. That, I believe,
> was added for
> regular adepts, because their choices for
> metamagical techniques are
> quite limited in comparison to a spellslinger. I
> think that magician
> adepts should, however, have the options available
> to them that any
> other spellcaster does: metamagic technique, lose a
> geas, or alter your
> signature.
> > -Ves.
>
> I pretty much agree with what Ves said, except he
> got some of the
> details wrong. Normal adepts DON'T have the "extra
> power point" option.
>
> Instead of a profile like this:
>
> > Adept, grade 2:
> > magic rating: 8
> > power points: 8-10
> > metamagic techniques: 0-2
>
> They have a profile like this:
>
> Adept, grade 2:
> magic rating: 8
> power points: 8
> metamagic techniques: 2
>
> I think I'll be giving this method a go if I ever
> get a magical adept
> player: When a magical adept initiates, he gets an
> increase to his
> magic which also gives him an extra power point.
> Like any other
> magicker, he also gets a metamagical technique. He
> has the same options
> as any other spellcaster (lose a geas, change
> signature). The power
> point may be spent on another level of magical
> ability, or on adept
> powers. The only restriction is this: a magical
> adept must choose which
> AREA he is focusing on when he initiates. Each
> initiation is a special
> experience and must focus on one particular area,
> either his mage or
> adept abilities. This is decided by what he spends
> the power point on.
> If he buys magical ability, this particular
> initation is focused on his
> mage abilities. This restricts what metamagical
> abilities he can
> choose.
>
> An example. A magical adept initiates for the first
> time. He has three
> basic options. Power and metamagic, power and
> signature change or lose
> a geas. If he loses a geas, the focus is decided by
> what powers he
> loses it from. He can lose multiple geases, but he
> can't lose them from
> both adept and magical powers at the same
> initiation.
>
> If he chooses a power point and an astral signature
> change, he MUST
> devote the power point to magical ability, as the
> signature change is a
> magical one, not an adept one.
>
> If he chooses a power point and a metamagical
> technique, he has the
> most options. If he devotes the point to magical
> ability, he can choose
> any metamagical technique he could gain as a mage,
> but not one he could
> gain as an adept. If he devote the point to adept
> abilities, he can
> only choose a metamagical technique another adept
> could gain.
>
> An even more specific example. Said adept decides to
> get a power point
> and a metamagical technique. The technique he wants
> to get is centring.
> If he puts the power point into magical ability, he
> gains the mage
> version of centring (applying centring to magical
> skills). If he puts
> it into adept powers, he gains the adept version
> (applying centring to
> athletics and stealth).
>
> Any comments?
>
> *Doc' REALLY wants to find someone with the Improved
> Ability: Swedish
> Massage power. Of course, someone with Improved
> Ability: Tantric Sex
> could also be fun...*
> ==> Doc'
> (aka Mr. Freaky Big, Super-Dynamic Troll of
> Tomorrow)
>
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