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From: IronRaven cyberraven@********.net
Subject: Second Hand
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 1999 10:34:26 -0400
At 05.00 09-07-99 -0700, you wrote:
>In WW2, we didn't have automatic machinegun style grenade launchers, ala
>Mk19, which is aapprox 200 rpm 40mm grenade launcher...thats 200 rouns per

Or the Chinese W-87 (or is it 37?), with 200 RPM, drum fed, and weighing
with tripod 37kg, compaired to the 80 something for a tri-pod mounted Mk 19.
That is light enough to use as foot company or special-issue platoon
weapon along with light and medium machine guns and maybe light mortars,
while our platoons and companies on foot are limited to SAWs, some M-60s,
M-203s, and maybe some mortars at the company level.

>As I was trying to say by the Mk19 example, tech does matter. Sure, the

And as I was pointing out, our technology may be good, but our "answers"
are based ont he doctrine of having vehilces around and approved by folks
who use Europe and the Middle East, and occasionally SE Asia, as the rule
of thumb. China on the other hand tests thier stuff for thier own
backyard, and its simple enough to fix with a hammer, a pair of pliers, a
socket wrench and number of curses while still being light enough to pick
up and move just about everything that doesn't have it's own motor. How
much of the US gear can make the same argueement? (retorical question)

>it's usefulness decreases. I would wager we could acheive air superiority

Big deal. Air power can't hit mobile targets unless someone can see them,
and unless they are in the open or in vehilces, we have a hell of a time
finding small groups of infantry.

>True, but....in any US vs China war, Taiwan is most likely going to be a

Is most likely going to be compromised from the git-go. Don't count on it.

>Okinawa not too far away, either.

Only if the Japanese are in on it. Otherwise, we have to go to Guam,
Diego Carcia and carriers, becuase NorKor would most likely be heading
south at the same time.

>Yes, supply lines are a problem, but trust me, we (the US) have learned
>alot from Desert Storm, the last large scale war on the other side of the
>world.

Where we had three months of unmolested airstrips and harbors to bring
everything in. We would not have that against China.


Kevin Dole, aka CyberRaven, aka IronRaven, aka Steel Tengu
http://members.xoom.com/iron_raven/
"Once again, we have spat in the face of Death and his second cousin,
Dismemberment."
"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in
your philosophy."

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