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From: Bull bull@***********.com
Subject: Deciper press release link
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 1999 05:56:29 -0400
At 11:12 PM 9/8/99 -0400, abortion_engine wrote these timeless words:
>> Earthdawn wasnt all that great to begin with. As evidinced by poor
>> sales.
>
>There are a lot of things that are worthwhile that are not popular. Just
>look at me, for example. Just because the line didn't sell doesn't mean that
>it wasn't a good game. In the end, I guess it's an issue of personal
>opinion. Now, I didn't play the game that often, but I resent the loss of
>opportunity to learn more about the past of the Shadowrun world. The return
>of the Horrors, the direction magic is going, and, god forbid, the past of
>Aina and Harlequin, which I now have to read in French since no English
>printings will be available.
>
You resent it? Why?? It wasn't a personal attack at you or the gamers in
general. Geez....

Now, to set the record straight on this (and god knows this won't be the
first time nor the last that this will have to be said), the ED/SR link
was, well... badly done. It was something that got thrown into the mix
AFTER Earthdawn was written, and unfortunately, it made the link an awkward
one, at best. Plus, that link hampered SR, because any time something
happened in Shadowrun, everyone went rushing to find an ED precedent, or
associated it with the IE or Horrors (And rightly so during Dowd's run,
especially toward the end :/). And anything in ED, everyone started
looking for in Shadowrun.

Earthdawn was a good game on it's own. And had it been well thought out,
the ED/SR link could have been cool. But, things have progressed to the
state they're currently in for two reasons:

1) Earthdawn didn;t sell. There's nothing that can be done about that.
FASA tried everything they could to get people interested in the game,
INCLUDING giving away the rules on CD-ROM. In the end, it wasn;t enough,
and the game went the way of the Dodo, and will probably never get
resureccted. Sad, but true.

2) There was a time in Shadowrun (late 95 or so) when if you mentioned
Immortal Elves or Horrors, most Shadowrun Players wanted to slap you (And
you long termers, don;t deny it. I remember a LOT of complaints on this
list back when I first joined in 96, and that was after the FASA IE and
Horror stuff was dying off). It got to be a VERY overused cliche in
Shadowrun. Anything big happened, it either meant that the Horrors were
coming, Harley was involved, or both. Even the bugs, which by themsleves
got way overused, were Horror related. And that point was the LOW point
for Shadowrun, sales wise. Harlequin the first was a very neat adventure.
Harley's Back was, IMO, kinda dumb and pointless... Interesting idea, but...

Bull
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