| From: | Mad Hamish h_laws@**********.utas.edu.au |
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| Subject: | Medical Treatments & Science (was Re: On Cybereyes) |
| Date: | Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:04:54 +1000 |
>At 18.25 09-13-99 -0400, you wrote:
>>Hey, folks, magic isn't real! Press pause on the fantasy deck before you
>
> You can choose to not believe things, "science" does it all the time.
>Pray tell, is everyone who experinces a "laying on of hands" part of the
>con?
Generally a victim of the con.
> Or how about reiki, or the kundalani experinces that some have
>experinced?
Reiki I'm dodgy about, I've heard some people who have testified that it's
helped them with particular problems which aren't generally treatable. OTOH
so have sugar pills.
I don't know what kundalani is so have no opinion.
> Chiropactory and acupunture were thought of as "self delusion" until just
>a decade ago.
Not exactly.
The mechanics suggested for chiropactory are rubbish. (i.e. the original
idea is that lesions in the spine which can be manipulated are responsible
for most disorders and illnesses) the practice of chiropactory can help
with some injuries. It's basically along the lines of physiotherapy,
although generally with less training and I'm not as impressed by the
average chiropractor's technique.
Accupuncture was laughed at because of the mystacism associeted with it
(Chi lines of force around the body, the meredian iirc).
As I understand it there were studies done which showed that it did have an
effect and a mechanism for that effect has now been discovered.
> Same as herbal medicine, even though the drug companies
>conviently leave out the fact that until the mid-seventies,
Many herbal medicines have been dismissed because they've had studies done
and they've shown no beneficial effect. Others have had the active
ingrediants isolated and form the basis of medical treatments.
> everything they
>did was based off of plants and natural mutationsof pre-existing microbes.
>Or how about "theraputic touch" (part reiki and part shiatsu)
What do you do with the rest of the Shiatsu?
It is a chinese dog isn't it?
>, which has
>been part of the training for many Canadian nurses for over a decade, and
>the hospitals that require this training have seen a 15% cut in secondary
>and postop infections, along with similiar reductions in healing time for
>patients who are cared for by these men and women? These rates are too
>high tobe psychosomatic
I'd need to see the papers.
Where have you gotten those statistics from?
What are the reductions in infection rates in hospitals which _don't_ use
the above methods in treatments?
I've heard some "interesting" statistics quoted with absolute assurance
which have never been sourced.
> Tell me, have you ever tasted a photon? Experinced the time-space
>dialtaion of supralight travel?
Supralight travel?
AFAIK impossible (except possibly for supra-luminal barrier tunnelling
which I'm informed has been observed)
relativistic effects have been demonstrated via atomic clocks as well as
observing subatomic particles.
>
> Boy, trust me, this stuff is real. Just becuase you are part of the
>population that can't experince it due to a defective processor isn't my
>problem.
"Everyone's out of step but our Albert."
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