From:	Sebastian Wiers m0ng005e@*********.com
Subject:	Realism
Date:	Thu, 30 Sep 1999 02:30:15 -0500

:> A troll with a strength of 10 can lift the same weight as 3 average
:> humans. That's probably not enough to lift even one end of a car. More
to
:> the point, SR attributes are "linear"- a 10 isn't so much super human as
it
:> is twice as good as a 5. If somebody with a 5 in something has a
snowballs
:> chance in hell, having a 10 gives you double-sized snowballs chance...
:
:And of course this entirely depends upon the car and the effects of a
"+10D6"
:in total kilograms that are added to the effect. In *some instances btw,
it
:*might* be feasible to apply "adrenaline rules" which have led to the
stories
:of "superhuman strength". One concept that we use *now* is that if a point
:of karma is spent (burned) by the character for the purposes of lifting,
then
:the Willpower of the individual -OR- the Essence attribute (measuring the
:power of the "meta/human spirit") is added for *one* strength/endurance
:(something) roll IF the circumstances merit it.

That all makes the trolls strenght even LESS super-human, actually; If a
human can "boost" strenght up to 10 or 12, and a troll up to 15 or so, then
the troll really isn't all that much stronger, numerically. Not that the
numbers really mater there, though. If its fun and fits the character (say,
if he's so huge its truely inconvineint) let him move whatever they have
to. After all, most people can lift and carry thier own weight when they
have to, although it seems that most trolls technically could not.

:> I'd say you could con a ganger into giving you his gun; they aren't
:> known for intelligence or willpower. Then again, they aren't known for
:> steady nerves, and might shoot you even though they WANT to surrender.
But
:> guards? If they are halfway competent, I figure they take a "your name
:> ain't on the list" attitude, and try to figure out who to call, if just
to
:> cover their own butts.
:
:Hmm...not sure I would agree to this, but if the story and the enjoyability
:of a given game were at stake, then literally "whatever works best" would
go
:IMO.


I wasn't implying you couldn't bullshit them still; it would just be
harder. It is supposedly thier job not to take bullshit, and they (might
be) trained how to deal with it. Then again, theres a lot of guards who are
NOT halfway competant...

Mongoose