From:	dbuehrer@******.carl.org dbuehrer@******.carl.org
Subject:	Invisibility question...
Date:	Mon, 02 Oct 2000 07:40:42 -0600

Wagemage wrote:
> I have a question about invisibility, I know it's been done to death in
>the past, and if this is an old discussion please point me to the log and I
>will read it there.

Oddly enough, I think this is the first time I've seen this one :)

> I have a mage in a group who was captured along with his pals. The NPCs
>being magic conscious, put a bag on his head, nothing special, just a nylon
>camping bag.
> He wanted to know if he could cast invisibility on the bag or perhaps
>himself and thus be able to see through it.

I would rule that he couldn't cast any spell on the bag because he couldn't
see it (it's awfully dark in there). If the bag did let some light in I
would allow him to target it, but with a severe penalty because he wouldn't
be able to focus on the bag (to close to his eyes).

On the off chance he managed to cast invisibility on the bag (the bag let
some light in and he succeeded despite negative modifiers) I would allow
him to see through the bag. My view of invisibility is that the spell
creates an illusion for the perceiver. In the mage's case the spell would
create an illusion of the environment outside the bag. Having said that, I
would not allow the mage to target anybody/thing outside the bag, because
he isn't really seeing them with his own eyes, but seeing them through the
eyes of the invisibility/illusion spell.

Yes, in my game a mage could cast invisibility on that mirrored
windshield. The mage wouldn't then be able to target the occupants, but
his street sam buddy could have a field day.


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