From:	kawaii trunks@********.org
Subject:	Invisibility question...
Date:	Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:27:03 -0400

From: <dbuehrer@******.carl.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 10:06 AM


>
>
> Here's a question: Do invisible objects block LOS?
>
> In the case of basic invisibility I would rule yes. This, IMO, creates an
> illusion in the caster's mind. So if a caster is trying to target
> something on the other side of an invisible wall, he isn't really seeing
> his target, but an illusion of the target.
>

It depends on how "smart" the spell is. With the example of an invisible
wall, how is the person *actually* seeing past the wall? Does he just see a
"empty" space, and doesn't notice movement behind the wall? Since, he isn't
actually seeing past the wall, he wouldn't see things behind it, even though
the spell is making him think that he sees past the wall? You see the
problem with invisible objects? ;)

If that is true, then I would agree with you.

> In the case of improved invisibility I would also rule yes. Improved
> invisibility creates physical illusions IMO. In the above example the
> spell would be replacing the wall with a physical illusion of whatever is
> behind it. The caster still isn't targeting the actual target, but a
> physical illusion of the target.
>

IIRC, improved invisibility physically bends the light, however, they have
always said that magical sight, which I would imagine this qualifies as, can
not be used to qualify for LOS. IE: no clairvoyance. :) So I agree with you,
but for different reasons. :)

> To Life,
> -Graht

Ever lovable and always scrappy,
kawaii