| From: | shadowrn@*********.com (Holly Feray) |
|---|---|
| Subject: | in defense of the devil |
| Date: | Fri Sep 14 14:25:31 2001 |
Holly
>
> >No course not, rather than help him you beat the
> >shit out of him. Way to go. Violence
> >solved a problem alright.
>
> BZZZTTT! Wrong answer. Never touched him. As a matter of fact I
> didn't know him and have never seen or met him. You're making
> assumptions there. Re-read what I wrote and try again.
>
> >Or did your
> >"inspirational" chat set him on the proper road? Now he >has a nice
> wife he
> >treats just right with a couple of darling kids...
>
> All I know for sure is that he never hit _her_ again. If we can't or
> won't protect the people that are around us then we have become as
> evil as those whose recent actions have caused so much pain.
>
> >I'm betting the former. If not option 3 where he still >blieves
> violence
> >makes the world goes round and is finding a new target >away from
> you and
> >your backup...
>
> Here's a hint: You can't save the whole world. You can save your
> l...retribution. Period.
>
> What do you suggest we use in dealing with this issues, harsh
> language? Or do you think that someone like an Osama bin Laden is
> willing to take a "time-out" and sit in the corner of Afganistan for
> a while.
>
> I've heard you go on about what's wrong with violence, but so far
> haven't seen you present an alternative. There is a time and a place
> for talk, for reasoning, for working things out. When that fails,
> there has to be something else or the talk means *nothing* and is
> simple another noise.
>
> Please note again that I am not talking about individuals, I am
> talking about an institutional response.
>
> >America has NEVER looked or became weak. Slack maybe in >defense
> about
> >keeping hijackers off planes but there will ALWAYS be new >methods.
> Plastic
> >guns what have you.
>
> You've just made my point for me, thank you.
> ...
> But tell me this: Which do you think will have more of an effect, if
> we wreck overwhelming vengeance on those responsible for this
> tradegy or if we concede to their wishes and withdrawl from Saudi
> Arabia and denouce any friendship with Isreal?
>
> Which one of those actions is going to show them that terrorism is
> unacceptable and that they can not and must not attack the United
> States or any other sovriegn nation?
>
> Try giving your dog a treat and telling him "Good boy" next time he
> shits on the floor and see how that works.
>
> >SR is just a game
>
> <sarcasm>
> What? You can't see that the violent culture that we live in is what
> actually breeds violence? That we are training our children through
> movies, games and music that violence does work and that it is an
> acceptable solution to problems.
>
> Or are you saying that what we think and the things that we as
> people put our time and energy into have absolutely no effect on
> what we do?
> </sarcasm>
>
> Think about it. It is a game, I do know the difference, but I find
> your position on the two issues a bit hypocritical.
>
> >If you can't tell the difference between real life
> >violence and pretend...it's time you see a shrink.
>
> Trust me, I know more about real life and real violence than I care
> to... When was the last time that you had a man convicted of three
> murders pull a knife on you and threaten to drive it into your
> belly?
>
> He was not mis-understood. He did not need counseling. He did not
> need to stand around in a group and sing "Kumbaya." There are those
> among us who have crossed the line between being reasonable human
> beings and something less. Something far more evil. They need to be
> dealt with in order to protect those who are morally opposed to
> violence.
>
> Please do not pretend to lecture me on real life. I've enough of it
> now, thank you.
>
>
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