From:	shadowrn@*********.com (Downtym)
Subject:	[Shadowrun] On the subject of good and evil
Date:	Mon Sep 17 14:55:01 2001

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Damion Milliken wrote:

> Occasionally it's nice to have more 'black and white' games (maybe it's a
> falling back to those DnD days? ;-)), and these often seem to manifest in,
> for example, bug runs. It's pretty easy to band together against a common
> foe like bugs - you come out looking like the good guys no matter how you
> deal with them.

Actually, I often wonder what causes Shadowrun to spawn such
philosophical debates. You don't usually get those when playing D&D
and you wade your way through kobolds. Shadowrun can often be as
combat heavy as D&D (Sometimes much more, especially when it comes to
using grenades, missiles, assault rifles, etc), but you just don't get
the philosophical debates you get in Shadowrun in D&D.

Is it because the focus of D&D is usually fighting "monsters" -
creatures that are just not human - where as in Shadowrun you're
fighting human opponets?

Anyway, I was left wondering if some people had examples of clear cut,
"black and white" campaigns they had done in the past and where their
runners ended up (Either in the black or the white)?

I'm currently running some D&D players through their first Shadowrun
adventure and they haven't even glanced twice to second guess the
moral decisions of their actions. But whereas in D&D, that would
normally be okay, in Shadowrun it's going to get them in a lot of
trouble. As I go through this process of making the game for them, I
wonder if it is something more on the GM's side, the player's side, or
if it is just a function of the different genres of the game.

Also, has anyone got a simple, compiled chart of the SR3 + Matrix
decker stuff? I'm really looking for a reference card that lists the
"System Operations" on one side, utilities on the other, some short
cut and quick definitions for rolls and other things. Basically,
something portable for the decker who needs to know it all. ;-)

If anyone has done this, using the SR3 + Matrix rulesets, can you toss
a copy my way before I spend all night working on it myself? :-)

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