From: | shadowrn@*********.com (Bira) |
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Subject: | [OT] Good Blood Spirits |
Date: | Mon Mar 25 06:30:00 2002 |
"Lone Eagle" <loneeagle2061@*******.com> wrote:
>I'd debate that; if you throw yourself into a furnace because if you
>don't some guy will push a button... That isn't suicide, that's self
>sacrifice.
I think it depends... If the guy pushes the button anyway after you've
jumped, the whole thing is a bit pointless. Now, if you grab the guy and
jump into the furnace, taking him with you in order to prevent him from
pushing the button (and destroying the world, or your loved ones, etc.),
then it'd be self-sacrifice.
> If you stay where the Romans have put you, in agony until you die when it
> would not strain your power in the slightest to simply step down and carry
> on sorting peoples problems out because it is neccesary that you take on the
> sin of every human being and then die, that is sacrifice, not suicide.
Hm... No, this was not suicide. He didn't kill himself - could have done
this at any time. He was martyrized, which is a bit different.
> if slitting your own throat saves the lives of those you care about; if you
> rip your own heart out because your child needs it, and needs it now, no
> time for anaesthesia. This is all self sacrifice, the hand that does the
> killing is not important, it is the mind that makes the choice.
Slitting your own throat to summon a big-ass blood spirit is not self
sacrifice by my evaluation. That's what being discussed here, let's keep
on topic :).
However, you can just change a few "cosmetic" aspects in the act and
make it much more noble in the character's views. Causing a "miracle"
instead of summoning a spirit, summoning a differen kind of spirit or
dying "spontaneously" without bloodshed as the character's soul leaves
his body are all things than can be combined to make a perfecly noble
and unambiguous sacrifice, great for ending a PC mage's career in grand
style :).
> Here's another one, does the phrase "I'm just going out, I may be some
> time." mean anything to you or am I being peculiarly English? Did Cpt. Oates
> commit suicide, or did he sacrifice himself to give the rest of them a
> chance to survive.
I'm afraid that went right over my little non-English head :).
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