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From: shadowrn@*********.com (shadowrn@*********.com)
Subject: decking costs
Date: Mon Mar 25 19:30:01 2002
On 22 Mar 2002 at 16:59, Ice Heart wrote:

>
> Yea, well, I was joking there. :) I have a player that begs for a
> cyberzombie every time I start a game. I always point out the mood, cost,
> and dangers of playing a cyberzombie, and he always gives up on the idea in
> a huff. My point was, people often want to play the advantages of an
> archtype without the costs. I call those people munchkins.

Hmm wel she sayed a number of times that her int was to high so she didn't have the
disadvantage of getting stuk in detail ..



> Deckers can spend a few hours hitting small sites around the world and earn
> 50K. Find me ONE other archetype that can make that much money with that
> small an effort. And then do it next week as well.

Find me ONE Gm in my neiberhood that wil alow that (since we only got gurth that question
was ment as a joke =)



> A. Way too much emphasis on combat in your games?

As gurth sayed in his post we have a High caracter death rate
Since we aren't realy good at tactics,surviving, all the other stuf
Caracters tend to die a lot (espesialy mine since i normaly play the combat monster)
And now i get 3 difrent way's to die
1: rigger dump shock
2: decker dumpshock
3: getting shot,clubber,smashed,blown up, other wize damaged

Hmm i think i'm going to get a acountent caracter gurth alway's sayed if you don't want
your
caracter to die make an acountent with a normal job =)

> also a black belt in a very challenging martial art.

Witch one ?

I play racquetball

Thats squas right?
. I rock climb, hike, canoe, and on one insane occasion, I jumped out of a perfectly good

airplane.

Cool where do you live? since none of those things (exept the airplane part) you can do in

my country


> and shutting me up
> takes an act of god AND duct tape. ;P

Hmm i'll take your word for it =)
>
> Have you read about armored deck casing? Never, ever leave home without it.
Um no?
I'll check it out


> >B: he can't enter a building to a raid and if he does see A
>
> See my rant. Deckers can wear armor and shoot guns too.

Yes and put them self in more danger then they should ..

> >C: lose the deck and he's just a runner with useless skills
>
> Find me a useless skill and I'll find you a useless prejudice. There. Is.
> No. Such. Thing. Imagination, creativity, and adaptability will allow any
> skill a useful role.

Ok when can you get here? since i don't realy think any of those things are in our group
in
great helpings.. =)


Any skill. I had a player effectively use a Violin skill once.

O gods don't remind me a player with us had a flute skill she made more money with it in
one concert then we made in 2 runs =)

Most of my players buy Theatrical skills now. Can you say
> "hello, effective disguise"? Of course, your GM owes it to you to build
> your character into the adventure, which means taking into account your
> character's strengths and weaknesses.

Hmm gurth answer this one for me will ya? =)

> >C: plain borring
>
> Yea, well, I differ. Strenuously. :)

Like i sayed when your around here come and teatch us =)

> >D: to damn manny tests
>
> Ask your GM to tinker with the rules. Or tell him/her to mail me and I
> will. I love tinkering with rules. ;)
Um i think htat gurth already answerd that question with some big words =)

> >Got the idea =)
>
> What were we talking about? ;P

Wel if you want to move over near vlissingen i would love to have you in my group
I'll explain a bit:
We got about 8 ppl who normaly play shadowrun and no more then that, there are other ppl
who play roleplaying games but since they are also adicted magic player not a realy good
adision to out group, and yes we tried and no it didn't work =)
So we are stuck with these lets say 6 ppl who usialy show up
2 of them are usless
One is just there for the coumpany, he's one of those player who doesn't give a fuck about

what happens to his caracter, and uslialy hides behind anything handy when the shooting
starts
The other on is wel..also like that or over reacts to a simple situation
The other ppl have there favorite type caracters and rarly take anything els (and with
some
this is a good thing, one plays a face realy wel becose he's a kind of face in RL)
And ppl do chance to difrent caracters but return to there "normal" arctype fast

So any advice? =)

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