From: | gurth@******.nl (Gurth) |
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Subject: | Lightning Ball vs Vehicle. Uber Spell or How Does It Work? |
Date: | Fri, 29 Jul 2005 19:10:10 +0200 |
> But the sphere has to reach the target first, the example in the rules
> talks about transparent barriers and the fact that they don't stop a
> power ball but the guy hiding behind the wall won't be effected since
> the caster cannot see him...
That's combat spells, which work differently, and so they don't concern
us ATM :)
> It then goes on to say that elemental manipulations are impeded by
> "glass and other barriers" and that firing through barriers rules apply
I think that applies to hitting your target with a single-target EM
spell, like Flamethrower. This would have to go through a barrier in
order to reach a target standing behind, say, a glass window, and so the
normal barrier rules apply.
> - as we've already determined the vehicle itself is unharmed so
> everything inside it is likewise protected.
And that's where I beg to differ :) Since we're quoting rules, those on
page 182 of SR3 specifically say: "Targets hidden behind a wall within
the radius of a Fireball spell will still get cooked, even if the caster
cannot see them." To me, this means a vehicle's passengers will still be
hit even if the vehicle itself is unharmed and they have the opacity (?)
of the windows turned up to 11.
> It's also worth noting that the rules state that they effect an area in
> the same way as a physical explosion (centre out presumably)
True, and I find this a bit unfortunate. I think what it's supposed to
mean is "They hit everyone within the blast radius, like a grenade", and
not "They explode from the center outward, like a grenade".
> remember that the caster cannot target the spell inside the vehicle
> because of the barrier effect
There would be no need; the average car is not larger than 12 meters, so
directly above its center point would do just fine :)
> and if they try they're aiming at a base
> 12 for blind fire anyway...
That would apply, yes. You'd be unlikely to hurt a rigger inside a car,
unless you roll rather well.
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