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Message no. 1
From: Jim Tyler <pherble@*****.COM>
Subject: Why?
Date: Sat, 9 Oct 1993 22:20:19 MDT
>>>>>[I run the shadows because the light hurts my
eyes.]<<<<<
--Journey <21:00.00/10.09.54>

>>>>>[Journey!! Is it really you? We all thought you were dead! Man, it
is great to have you back!]<<<<<
--Gyrfalcon <21:10.15/10.09.54>

*****Encrypt Lackey*****
>>>>>[Did you get a trace on him?]<<<<<
--Dorian <21:12.14/10.09.54>

*****Encrypt Dorian*****
>>>>>[Trace what? I go back to the originating LTG and the system record
shows two users in the last 48 hours, both ID's being your Corsairs. So
either your men are playing tricks with your mind, or some B.A. matrix
runner is posting messages with Journey's tag from remote terminals,
or....]<<<<<
--Lackey <21:15.12/10.09.54>

*****Encrypt Lackey*****
>>>>>[Or What?]<<<<<
--Dorian <21:15.58/10.09.54>

*****Encrypt Dorian*****
>>>>>[Or we have another ghost in the machine who likes to play
games.]<<<<<
--Lackey <21:17.04/10.09.54>
Message no. 2
From: Can I play with madness <MKNABUSCH@******.BITNET>
Subject: Why?
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 1994 11:55:03 -0500
Why would you play with a bad GM?
Because some RPGing is better than
NO RPGing. trust me. I went through
a two year withdrawl of playing *whimper*
and for me that was hell. Esp. the first
two months. Of course, now I suppliment it
with writting stories (almost as good as RPGing)
when I'm in a down time. I've played with the
'Kill the PC's' gm, 'Munchkin' gm, 'Plot' gm,
and a few others. IF I get to role play, I'm
happy. But often with some gms that is a big if.
Michael
aka Harlequin
P.S. Never thought of using semen for ritual purposes. *grin*
Don't see why it won't work.
Message no. 3
From: "Brian E. Angliss" <ANGLISS@******.BITNET>
Subject: Why?
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 12:26:10 -0500
>>>>>[What the frag is wrong with you? So what if WHAT wanted AJ alive?
So
what if he has "taken responsibility" for all the people AJ will kill or injure
over his existance? Alex is a VAMPIRE! His sheer existance is a threat and
against the laws of 95% of the world's nations. You should have killed him.
I guess your failure or lack of resolve will become my
responsibility.]<<<<<
-- Velli <12:33:22/12-05-55>
Message no. 4
From: Brion Wauters <BDW2@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 13:23:06 -0700
>>>>>[So what if AJ is a vampire? He's alot more human than alot
of "normal people" I know!]<<<<<
-- Irish <13:25:15/07-12-55>
Message no. 5
From: Nightfox <DJWA@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 16:25:56 -0700
>>>>>[ Velli, it is interesting that you should be so worried about AJ.
What
about the fact that you are responsible in one way or another for many more
deaths than he is. Or the fact that he tries to only hunt on people with no
regard for human life or their well fare. Could it be that you are worried that
he might come after you? Funny, how AJ can be "evil" because his way of
killing those who deserve to be killed also keeps him alive and in enough
control so that he will not prey upon the innocent, while others who have about
as much respect for others lives and use them as cannon fodder can be considered
"good".

I have never liked the fact that AJ is a vampire, and in general I believe that
they should be destroyed simply for the safety of your average person, but I do
not see AJ in that light, I see him as a person who is unwilling to give in and
die and so he must rather make his existence as worthwhile as he can by
rectifying an others wise bleak situation.

A hero is one who ignores the odds in helping others in ways that they may or
may not be capable of.]<<<<<
-- Spirit <Of the Matrix>
Message no. 6
From: "D.O.A. SECURITY" <MKNABUSCH@****.ALBION.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 1994 13:58:29 -0500
>>>>>[Oh, Velli? STUFF IT! AJ is a friend. He's never hurt
me or mine. In fact, as far as I know, he's never hurt anyone
that didn't deserve it thrice over. And Runners are against the
laws of OVER 95% of the worlds nations. *sigh*]<<<<<
-Harlequin <Ha-Ha-Ha>
Message no. 7
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Why?
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:13:38 +0000
*****INTERNAL: SIGANet
>>>>>[TO: All SIGA Staff

This explains a lot.

+++++begin transcript

C: David Coppinger, Director, SIGA
S: Walter Sorensen, Section Chief, NRO


S: Dave. Still want the shots for the Yemen? Not much to see, just
Akbar's positions getting chewed into rubble and lots of prisoners
being marched away.

C: No need, now. Thanks.

S: Any idea what that mess was about?

C: Thereby hangs a tale, Walter. Want to hear it?

S: ...Okay. Line's secure.

C: Good. I've had Price going over the financial side of this and it's
_beautiful_. War as scam. I admit I don't understand the fine
details, you'd need a wizard like Price for that, but fundamentally
it's a circle jerk. Akbar drops maybe a quarter-billion in arms
purchases to turn his raggedy-ass if numerous Jihad into an imitation
of a fighting force.

He seizes the Hawker mines, which are worth seventy to a hundred
million a year depending on the price of niobium ore and are good for
another ten to fifteen years. Cost effective, long term, since he
keeps the army and drives on Sana'a and then Aden. Wham, Akbar is now
El Presidente.

But there's a catch. The Corporate Court come down hard on Akbar to
smash him. You can't go around seizing corporate facilities with
military assets, not without solid cause, and this Yemeni Jihad must
be made an example of. So Akbar gets his pretty toys smashed and the
mine written off.

But in the meantime, he's used the mines as collateral to borrow
another quarter-billion nuyen. And in the fighting, the mines get
trashed. Now, no insurer will pay up in these circumstances, and
anyway their ownership is a hell of a mess, and there's the problem
that a merchant bank in the Philippines claims them as collateral on
a defaulted loan, so the whole issue gets tied up in lawsuits and
litigation. The merchant bank - not a big player, probably only a
billion or two in loans and deposits - mysteriously blows up, its
cores crashed and a lot of staff killed. No records of who owed
what.

The depositors and shareholders are furious, their money's gone, and
one is so angry he trashes the bank. The people who were loaned money
are laughing, there's no record now of who owes what.

And guess what? A big slab of the loanbook is to your own people.
You've got Akbar's loan, which repays you for the weaponry two or
three times over. The bank records are gone. the loans officer
vanished without trace, he had to be in on it. You pocket maybe half
a billion nuyen in clean, untraceable credit.

The hard part is making a big enough mess, and keeping it localised,
so that you can crash the bank without bringing down too many others.

S: Can we stop this?

C: It's happened. It's done. The bank was in Manila, it went down a few
days ago. Price and Alex only just found the last pieces.

Like I said... this is a hell of a scam. Price pulled it a couple of
times on a smaller scale, but I don't know if it's ever been done so
ambitiously before.

S: So all this is about a heist?

C: Exactly. Just money.
+++++end transcript]<<<<<
-- D J H Coppinger <18:12:43/12-24-58>
Director
Strategic Intelligence Gathering Agency

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