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Message no. 1
From: Jacamus <CUENOJF@*********.EDU>
Subject: Actually Helping Me
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 10:34:18 CST
>>>>>[Sorry, folks. Thanks fer the...well....advice, I guess. But
the UB is really helping me turn things around. Hell, the bugs are
only one of my problems. The UB is helping me turn into a new
person. They keep using the metaphor of a butterfly escaping its
chrysalis.

They are still doing a better job of protecting me from the bugs
anyway. I had a free spirit on my side and the bugs still attacked.
I had shamans, adepts, street sams, mercs, a head full of cyber and
an arsenal of the deadliest weapons known to man to protect me. I had
the whole Metroplex Guard to protect me and the bugs still attacked.
Or, at least something did. I know Lone Star did once at least.

Omigod. I've been using my real name. Drek, they'll turn me over to
the Star.

RESET: SIG.FIL -> "Jacamus (TIME / DATE)"

Gotta fly.]<<<<<
-- Jacamus (13:12:56 / 06-24-55)
Message no. 2
From: Gian-Paolo Musumeci <musumeci@***.LIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 12:39:43 -0500
*****Private to: Jacamus
>>>>>[We need to talk. Now.]<<<<<
-- Dark Angel <Fallen/Soul>
Message no. 3
From: The Dead Wyrm <oroboros@*****.ARBORNET.ORG>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 1994 16:44:12 -0400
>>>>>[ Insect spirits do not kill those they can convert. Beware.
]<<<<<
-- Macros the Black <13:36:17/6-24-55>
Message no. 4
From: Menno Broos <cspas166@***.EUR.NL>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 12:19:22 +0200
>>>>>[Macros, are you sure about that?]<<<<<
-- Aardvark (13:13:13/25-6-55)
Message no. 5
From: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 11:25:51 -0500
>>>>>[As one who's at least PARTLY disinterested in this, I'll give my
thoughts
on the UB. This is probably for all of you out there that have been either
joining OR bashing the Brotherhood...

Yes, I have heard bad rumors about the place. I don't trust the fraggers to
do any more than fix me up (and that only briefly, and occasinally), but I know
there's a hell of a lot of people out there that actually believe the stuff.
Who knows...they may be right. I don't know.

There may be rumors of them having something to do with the bugs (I'm lucky,
I've only dealt with a few in my day), but you can't deny that there ARE
people out there that are helped. Mostly because of that, I'm not going to
tell anyone that they SHOULDN'T join the Brotherhood. I'll just tell 'em
what I know.

For those of you that don't read drek like this, here's a summary. The UB
might be evil; it might not. But it's helped some people, so let's not
entirely condemn it.

Got it?]<<<<<
-- Solonus <11:25:05/06-25-55>
Message no. 6
From: The Dead Wyrm <oroboros@*****.ARBORNET.ORG>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 15:01:53 -0400
>>>>>[ Aardvark -- yes.

Solonus -- sure they help people. And then they're not people any more.
If you were building, say, a strike team, wouldn't you try to get your people
as healthy as possible before, say, sticking cyberware into them? ]<<<<<
-- Macros the Black <11:55:10/6-25-55>
Message no. 7
From: Alexander Shearer <alex@******.NOSC.MIL>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 13:15:45 -0800
>>>>>[Isn't the UB just like those Scientologist people? I always
thought it was...sort of a self-help religion, right?]<<<<<
-- Southern Belle <13:14:30/06-25-55>
Message no. 8
From: The Dead Wyrm <oroboros@*****.ARBORNET.ORG>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 1994 20:18:12 -0400
>>>>>[ Scientology was debunked; yeah, self-help, but only if you gave
a lot of cash. A lot of Mexicans got taken in by that right around 2002.
There were riots in Mexico City, wehn it was still called that, in 2004,
though. Scientology was pretty much destroyed in Mexico after that.

But the UB.... that's worse.]<<<<<
-- Macros the Black <17:17:17/6-25-55>
Message no. 9
From: Tim Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Actually Helping Me
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 1994 11:43:39 -0500
*****Private: Macros the Black
>>>>>[You were saying that they weren't people anymore...well, all I want
is
information on exactly HOW you know this, for further verification. All
I've EVER heard on the UB is rumors, except for their own propaganda and
the reports of those people that are all fixed up when they're done (they
do a good job at that...I'm living proof). As far as I can tell, it's a nor-
mal religion, albeit one that's a little more mysterious than the Catholic
Church (and THAT'S bad).

Rumors are rumors, chummer, but I'd like you know where you got
yours.]<<<<<
-- Solonus <11:43:00/06-26-55>

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