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Message no. 1
From: Avenger <Avenger@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 01:18:18 +0000
>>>>>[Well I've seen some professional movies in my time, that last one
a couple of years back from that porn queen for one, now that was fun,
but really Bull, do you expect the general public to have any faith at
all in some badly digitised grainy home movies like that. Really.


I don't know what this world is coming to. Nutters screaching about
horrors in the night, loons ranting about death and embracing the dark,
what is he, Darth Vaders grandson? Racist trolls on the loose, and now
you, with your polaroid family films. What a sad little world this is.


Oh, while I think of it, here's one I picked up during my last visit to
Hong Kong.


+++++Include: Bugs and the Beach Babes.


Enjoy.]<<<<<
-- Paraquat <01:15:23/12-12-57>


*****PRIVATE: Bull
>>>>>[You may have just signed your death warrant pal, that was a bad
move. Next time, encrypt it, send it privately, give it to Denver Data
Haven, if you can find the place and meet the protocols. Don't post in
a public area like that again. There are others watching you know. The
government for one. Probably the bugs, or their allies for another.
Bad move dude.]<<<<<
-- Paraquat <01:17:07/12-12-57>
Message no. 2
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 02:45:54 -0500
>>>>>[Hey, paquat, Byte me.]<<<<<
-- Bull <08:44:58/12-12-57>

*****PRIVATE: Paquat
>>>>>[Ok, now that the public prelim's are out of the way...

Yeah, you're right, I fragged up. Posting that to the list was obviously
not the smartest thing I've ever done. I was going to send that privately,
but since someone told me taht the bugs were public knowledge, I erronously
assumed that it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

I've kinda been out of the loop, ya know?

Amyways, I signed my death warrent quite some time ago. the trick here is
to delay paying the debt,and keep my family alive while doiing it.

Oh, and for your information, the bugs and the government aren't always a
seperate entity.]<<<<<
-- Bull <08:48:15/12-12-57>
Message no. 3
From: Paraquat <Paraquat@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 11:02:20 +0000
>>>>>[Paqat??? Oh, you must mean me! At least I assume you mean me,
HEY! anyone called paqat here??? Nope, don't think so, Nah, you
couldn't mean me. Not at all. I don't byte people, that's what dogs do.
Are you a dog then? Or simply a cur?]<<<<<
-- Paraquat <11:01:31/12-12-57>
Message no. 4
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:46:13 -0500
>>>>>[Woof!]<<<<<
-- Bull <08:47:31/12-13-57>
Message no. 5
From: Bull <chaos@*****.COM>
Subject: Re: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 00:49:25 -0500
*****PRIVATE: Paraquat
>>>>>[Hmmmm, I sent this last night, but you may not have gotten it since I
seem to have fragged up your handle. Sorry about that. Here's the message
again:

Ok, now that the public prelim's are out of the way...

Yeah, you're right, I fragged up. Posting that to the list was obviously
not the smartest thing I've ever done. I was going to send that privately,
but since someone told me taht the bugs were public knowledge, I erronously
assumed that it wouldn't be that big of a deal.

I've kinda been out of the loop, ya know?

Amyways, I signed my death warrent quite some time ago. the trick here is
to delay paying the debt,and keep my family alive while doiing it.

Oh, and for your information, the bugs and the government aren't always a
seperate entity.]<<<<<
-- Bull <08:48:15/12-13-57>
Message no. 6
From: Paraquat <Paraquat@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Bulls bulldrek
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1996 15:27:01 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Bull
>>>>>[If you have a message flying around on the board, assume someone
somewhere will intercept it. SysOp doesn't like undelivered mail, it
clogs the system. Public prelims? You _really_ want people to think
you are insane? This will not help your cause I'm afraid.


Posting your information to the list was not the mistake, posting
unverified information _was_. Many here do not have any desire to be
reminded of the terrors of the past few years, and others do not
believe, beyond what they are told in the media broadcasts.


You have mistakenly dragged up memories for people they did not want
refreshed. Also, your post was not convincing, it came across as the
desperate ravings of a lunatic mind who had just escaped from a farm
somewhere. The Bug City document that is familiar here is a couple of
years old, and many here are convinced the threat is over, and cannot
again become what it was. Also, they feel safe in the environment of
Seattle. They have forgotten that in other places in the world, the
bugs are still strong, and are still here, and growing.


Being out of the loop is not really an excuse, this should have made you
even more nervous, than you would normally have been. You and a couple
of, I assume associates, claim the bugs are out of Chicago CZ. Yet
offer little solid evidence to back this claim, _that_ is your problem.


I can not guess how any further evidence submitted by you will be
received, but it may be better to try and feel the temperature of the
water next time, than just diving straight in.


I wish you luck in protecting your family, though without strong support
in the Shadows, it is likely that you will be turned over for the price
of a bounty. Nobody here knows you, or has any reason to trust you,
this will unfortunately work against you. Do not rely too much on the
shadows any more Bull, things have changed over the years, and in
Seattle at least, a price can be paid for almost anything, and many will
collect on that price. There are many arrogant people here, who are
over confident in their ideas and sources, there are others who are
inexperienced and profit motivated. I do not know how the shadows were
when you were in the CZ, but they are no longer a noble place to live.
The day of the crusader is long gone, now the mighty dollar speaks teh
language of the shadows, and that is all that matters.


Also, you may have noticed a high proportion of government operatives,
or Federal agency affiliates here. This is something else that has
helped to destroy the integrity of the shadows. Too many damn agents.
They, especially will wish to crush anything you have to say, and will
do what they can to silence you.


Wether the bugs and government are seperate or affiliated is not my
concern, neither is your success or failure, the survival of myself and
my team _is_. Remember, the Shadows are no longer an honourable
environment, they have been infiltrated by the government, and contain
more people dedicated to their own pleasure and furtherance, than ever
before. There is no longer honour here.]<<<<<
-- Paraquat <15:25:18/12-13-57>

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