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Message no. 1
From: "Mary K. Klein" <mkk@*****.NET>
Subject: Magic..
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 11:38:37 -0500
*****Private: Griffyn
>>>>>[The information in your files seems to confirm my own
hypothesis.. but walk carefully. Posting that file in a public message
area was NOT a good idea. Many people would not like this information
spread around. If you're still interested in the case, we are looking
for runners to recover one of the previous victims of this treatment..
if you would be interested, please send me your resume.]<<<<<
-- Zarkon <11:28:40 / 02-11-56>

*****Private: GoD
>>>>>[The information in your friend's files seems to corroborate my
own hypothesis. You do need to read more carefully, though... the
subject's aura is not completely gone, merely reduced in size by approximately
45%. I believe I have a cure, but it needs testing. Perhaps you'd be
interested in joining in on the run to recover one of the other victims
(who has been attempting to kill us for a long time)? If so, send your
credentials along, in an ENCRYPTED message, please. Thank you.]<<<<<
-- Zarkon <11:32:27 / 02-11-56>

*****Private: Shal
>>>>>[Just peachy. I'm working on getting runners for finding
DarkLord... but Tarkis is probably going after him too. Hmm. Why don't
we go try to look for Tarkis while I'm waiting for replies? I'll meet
you at Tarkis' residence.]<<<<<
-- Zarkon <11:34:12 / 02-11-56>
Message no. 2
From: Griffyn <mark@********.IP.NET>
Subject: Re: Magic..
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:14:50 GMT-0500
***** PRIVATE: Zarkon
>>>>>[ Sorry, Zarkon, but I'm not going to be able to help you with your
current situation beyond merely sharing any knowledge that I may have. If
you have any questions that I might be able to help you with the answers
for, don't hesitate to ask. Good luck. ]<<<<<
-- Griffyn < 19:13:15/2-15-56 >
Message no. 3
From: The Wyrm Ouroboros <oroboros@******.COM>
Subject: magic
Date: Tue, 11 Apr 1995 11:16:14 -0700
Q
lo
exit
AAAAACK!!!
Message no. 4
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.CARLETON.CA>
Subject: Magic
Date: Tue, 10 Oct 1995 14:51:58 EDT
>>>>>[ If totems are available for all of the animals, why not a Human
totem? ]<<<<<
-- Righteous <14:58:33/10-10-56>
Message no. 5
From: Tony@***.MEGAHITS.COM
Subject: Magic
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 10:10:52 EDT
*****PRIVATE
set MODE brief + parameters [ SATlink version VS ]
set ENCRYPT MS9

>>>>>[ Hoi Mother Jaja! Christ! I've been seeing some scarry drek in
Seattle!
Makes my skin crawl, thinking about it.
I'm talking about several murders I've been trying to solve, for a
hefty sum of nuyen. My buddies Ryker, and DigitalDeath have been
trying to hang in, but their inexperience with magic leaves them at a
fraggin' disadvantage! And after the things I've seen, I'm not sure if
my experience with magic isn't enough as well. But I can't give up,
because this run is becoming personal... I mean the fragger' has
geeked several of my best friends already, and I feel like I'm being
watched ( Kinda' like the hunter becomes the hunted ) from a distance.
This guy really scares me too! Everyone he's killed has a Preying
Mantis carved into their fraggin' chests! Symbols, and wierd markings
line every inch of the victim too! It's like something out of a horror
sim-sense!
I've included some pictures of the crime scenes, and I was wondering if
you could take a look at them. I know that you've studyed many other
traditions of magic, and that you could probably tell me what they mean.

[[[ Send files::Crime-sc-*.std.trid + ]]]

Well Mother Jaja, I have to go now. Hopefully I'll live till
tomorrow... Send me any messages to >>>encrypted<<<.
]<<<<< -- Onyx <10:06:56/11-23-57>
Message no. 6
From: Tony@***.MEGAHITS.COM
Subject: Magic
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 11:58:42 EDT
set PRIORITY high+secure
*****PRIVATE

>>>>>[ Hello my Onyx, my student. I have carefully studied the
pictures, and found that the symbols are unique, and something I have
never seen before. In fact the symbols seem completely alien! No, No!
I don't mean that they are from another planet!
[[[ Play file::laugh-loud.std.snd ]]]
But they are very strange, and seem to have been influenced by something
"spiritual". The man you are chasing is probably into new forms of magic
that arose recently, or he might follow a tradition he made himself! Or
as you would say:
"He's a fraggin' crazy!"
I really don't know yet Onyx. The preying mantis symbol seems to be
his Loa, er... "totem" (as some call it.)
And you already know my feelings on that. A boccor doesn't stand much
of a chance battling the darkness within his soul. I've always felt
that the Voudon tradition leads us the right way, because of it's
implementation of a spirt guide, or Loa.... But you've already heard
this many times before, and I'm sure you don't want to hear it anymore.
But as for you insect-worshipping friend; I think he has lost his way.
His murders might have more to do with feeding his magic, more than
having a purpose. And the pictures DO suggest that strong magics have
been used on the victims. The victims have apparent burns, that would
be almost impossible to make with a flame-thrower or something along
that line. I don't find this run too profitable. Money is always less
in value, compared to your life. This man appears to be someone that
you don't want on your bad side. Well I'll go ahead and do some more
research... Goodbye, and may Ghede guide your way, in life, or in
twilight ]<<<<< -- MotherJaja <12:04:52/11-23-57>
Message no. 7
From: "Mark L. Neidengard" <mneideng@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: magic
Date: Tue, 5 May 1998 20:04:10 -0700
>>>>>[GKJ: You're spouting enough shit that I gotta wonder if you're not on
someone's payroll for defaming the magic-using crowd. Boo-hoo-hoo mages are
bad-asses who can wreak all sorts of havoc. Who-fucking-cares? Science
can affect plate techtonics, alter people's appearance, alter their thoughts
and memories, sprout foliage faster than "natural", and every other effect
you mention. Sure, there are some things that magic is better at. There are
other things that tech dominates. Both can be used to blow off a few dozen
random bystanders without so much as a second thought.

And what is this "close to 47%" of Security teams bullshit? If _5_ percent
is close to 47 percent, maybe I'd agree. I've browsed the statistics, you
can too by visiting the Nader Memorial Foundation's Matrix site. Don't think
that spouting erroneous numbers to try to support a sagging argument will wash
around here.

You want disease and suffering to be stopped by magic? Technology's had
millenia to do it and hasn't fully succeeded yet. Quit whining that some
people can do things that others can't. ]<<<<<
-- Azrael <19:45:43 / 05-05-59>
Message no. 8
From: "Mark L. Neidengard" <mneideng@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Magic?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 1998 14:44:50 -0700
>>>>>[DS, such loonies can babble all they want. Rest assured that the
pro-
magic lobbies are doing their work in the centers of government to try to
counteract such insanity. And, if the issue _does_ get forced and brought to
the street level, there will be a very large amount of pain on all sides and
a _great_ deal of conflict. The government can't do more than partially
regulate magic no matter what they do; the harder they try to outlaw magic,
the more only outlaws will be using magic. Besides, the government isn't going
to accept the magical weakening that would cause the nation relative to some
of the other countries out there...]<<<<<
-- Jason Tylor <14:41:36 / 06-11-59>
Message no. 9
From: Avenger <Avenger@*******.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Magic?
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 04:11:32 +0100
>>>>>[Is the action of nature not unlike drawing a bow?
What is higher is pulled down, and what is lower is raised up;
What is taller is shortened, and what is thinner is broadened;
Nature's motion decreases those who have more than they need
And increases those who need more than they have.


It is not so with Man.
Man decreases those who need more than they have
And increases those who have more than they need.


To give away what you do not need is to follow the Way.
So the wise man gives without expectation,
Accomplishes without claiming credit,
And has no desire for ostentation.


Do not reject the inevitable. Guide it, shape it. Make certain it
moulds to the best for all.]<<<<<
-- Sha'i'talis <04:07:31/06-12-59>
Message no. 10
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Magic
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 12:05:06 -0500
>>>>>[If you remove the magic from an area where something magical is, it
will go insane. In the process of thinking and rethinking its
existance it has a great chance of killing itself or causing great
harm to itself.

I dont know of a better way to say this.

Shaman's and quite a few other magically actives are NOT allowed on orbial
flights for just this reason. Magic, as least as it exists in this plane,
exists only on this planet (not to get into discussion of the existance of
other races on other planets, but for the sake of arguement, agree with me
here). It doesnt seem to extend too much further then the upper atmospheres,
tho I have not had the courage to attempt magic during an orbital flight
(nor will I take them -- I dont like the sedatives they offer mages). It
has been speculated >>reference<< several times that magic just doesnt work
outside of our gravitational field.

A lot of the magical aspects of this are currently being hashed around
again on the MagicNet nodes.

+++++ Include Argument.pro
+++++ Include Argument.con]<<<<<
-- Jason R. Stormwind <16:58:54 / 08-19-57>
Message no. 11
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:16:36 +0100
>>>>>[All I'll say is, I've been up the well, I've made magic work in on
the Moon (*really* badly, I could hardly light a cigarette) and it
didn't kill me or make me crazy.

Of course, being mad already probably helps <snigger>

What bugged me was astrally percieving. I didn't mind the silence and
the darkness. That was kind of soothing. It was the... I don't know how
to describe it, except that the darkness wasn't empty. I was being
watched, by something that was hungry and totally indifferent. Not evil,
just completely uncaring, the way you don't hate ants when you put down
poisoned bait to kill the whole nest.

I will admit I was glad to come home.]<<<<<
-- The Mighty Quinn <22:16:41/08-19-57>
Message no. 12
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 22:27:37 -0600 (MDT)
>>>>>[Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.....

Hear the words, know that there are hearts, and souls, far darker than
anything the most cold Toxic shaman could conjure from Auschwitz.

And when the Cyanthians and the Aotyoughs sweep down from above to feed,
know als@$%72348@#?<?!%asFQ#$^HE%Y&N 57q46@$%62

<<Connection Terminated at Source>>]<<<<<
-- Skull <22:25:32/08-19-57>

*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[Keep your theories to yourself! This is not the place to voice
them, or to reveal _ANYTHING_ about the Abyss. Hopefully they'll only
think that you're a bit bent and have read too many H.P. Lovecraft
stories. Do you understand?!]<<<<<
-- Mr. Big <22:28:48/08-19-57>

*****PRIVATE: Mr. Big
>>>>>[Yes, sir.]<<<<<
-- Skull <22:29:33/08-19-57>
Message no. 13
From: justinf@****.caltech.edu (Justin Fang)
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 1996 23:00:35 -0700 (PDT)
>>>>>[On the subject of magic in space, the interested may want to check
out
the following papers:
+++++include journal-references

Briefly, experiments were done where Awakened strains of two common
laboratory species, a plant (_Arabidopsis thaliana_) and fruit flies
(_Drosophila melanogaster_), were grown in space to see how they would
react. Both varieties displayed significant physiological and structural
differences, but did not display any active magical abilities.

For the purposes of this discussion, the interesting result is that the
offspring seeded or hatched completely in space were all of the baseline,
unAwakened form -- the managenes failed to express during development.
Whether this reversion was caused by some inherent magical property, or lack
of one, of space or by non-magical conditions inherent to space (i.e., zero
gravity) is entirely unclear. The researchers plan more experiments, some
with different species, some in centrifuges to simulate gravity, etc., and
are studying the descendents of the experimental subjects to see if they
will reAwaken once back on Earth.

This research is not being widely publicized, probably to prevent the public
from drawing premature and unwarranted conclusions.]<<<<<
-- Fisher <22:31:19 EST/08-19-57>
Message no. 14
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 1996 15:14:00 +0100
*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[We need to talk. Privately, somewhere very secure.

It seems we share nightmares.]<<<<<
-- Lilith <15:13:43/08-20-57>
Message no. 15
From: Brian Rogers <rogers@****.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Magic
Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 00:20:41 -0500
***** PRIVATE: Ice
>>>>>[Hmmm, not really my style but I never turn down learning a new
spell. Lets talk.

Ill assume you arent interested in healing, but if you are, I have a wide
range of things to offer you. A lot of my spell formulae have been posted
to MagicNet or some of the smaller boards...I dont usuall hoard magic, but
I have a couple things that Im still working on that would still be
interesting for you. Whats your specialty?]<<<<<
-- Kor <05:18:46 / 08-21-57>
Message no. 16
From: jaimie.nicholson@********.otago.ac.nz (Jaimie Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 10:13:44 +1200 (NZST)
*****PRIVATE: Kor
>>>>>[Nothing wrong with healing magic, though I haven't ever gotten around
to
learning any. Where and when can we meet?

I don't really have a speciality. I tend to use whatever I can to get the
job done, ranging from sneaky illusions to arse-kicking combat
spells.]<<<<<
-- Ice <15:58:39/08-21-57>
Message no. 17
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 16:54:03 -0600 (MDT)
*****PRIVATE: Lilith
>>>>>[My apologies, but my meeting with you would not be in the best
interests of me or my team at this time.

However, I can say this. There are those who seek to return these
creatures to the world. I am not one of them, although I have danced and
died with them. This is why I no longer feel that thier presence would be
advantageous.

Of course, most of the world knows little to nothing of this, and most of
my unit thinks that I was...injured a bit in a certain confrontation,
which accounts for my feelings on the matter. Such suspected mental
instability, real or imagined, makes my opinions questionable at
best.]<<<<<
-- Skull <16:55:30/08-23-57>
Message no. 18
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: Sat, 24 Aug 1996 10:02:10 +0100
*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[I appreciate your concerns. If the situation changes, I will meet
you at any time.

And I know of which you speak, and have fought them and their agents
with success. Lynch was by my side, though I hid from him the nature of
that which we battled.

If you are insane, and imagining these things, then so am I.]<<<<<
-- Lilith <10:03:45/08-24-57>

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