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Message no. 1
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:43:12 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[Of course he can, except when he's busy. Besides, we're all one,
big happy family and we read each other's mail all the time.

As for racist comments, I'm hardly the one you'd need to worry about.
That would be Fat Chance, the troll.

As for taking you on, I hardly think that will be necessary. You're not
likely to ever be a threat.

I'll be sure to tell Short Stuff you would like to meet her, though. I'm
sure she'll be so thrilled....

As for her team cutting out on her, she was more than capable of handling
herself when I left. Besides, the shots that Trideo Pirate uploaded, if
you were observant enough to notice them, indicated that she asked me to
perform a hot pick-up at the northeast corner. Of course, understanding
mil. and merc speak is beyond any runner who's not worked as a mercenary
or come from a military background.

And one last thing. The first group were Yaks. The second, down here in
Dallas-Ft. Worth were a Shiawase hit team. Yaks may hose down areas,
corps don't kill civilians unless no other option remains. It's bad for
buisness.]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <09:33:44/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: Skull, Short Stuff, Fat Chance
>>>>>[J and G threat?]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <009:34:48/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: AEPacker, Short Stuff, Skull
>>>>>[Neg. Shads say blowhards. Null persp.]<<<<<
-- Fat Chance <09:36:45/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: Fat Chance, Skull, AEPacker
>>>>>[Concur. Blind, harmless. 1 by 2 down.]<<<<<
-- Short Stuff <09:38:28/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: AEPacker, Short Stuff, Fat Chance
>>>>>[Ignore. Null provo. Recall ASAP RSVP.]<<<<<
-- Skull <09:40:36/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[(click click)]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <09:41:45/01-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[(click click)]<<<<<
-- Short Stuff <09:42:23/09-17-57>

*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[(click click)]<<<<<
-- Fat Chance <09:42:55/09-17-57>
Message no. 2
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 96 18:47:37 EST
>>>>>[Hoi Packer, just so you know, we run more professionally than you
could ever hope to. If it'd been us against that Shiawase squad, they
wouldn't have even had time to draw their guns...

And about leaving a team member in: it doesn't happen. A real team
_doesn't_ do it. It's the whole damn team or nothing... Unless of course
you're just a bunch of runner wannabe's, in which case we can understand
it...]<<<<<
-- Jen and Gabe <18:49:15/18-01-57>
Message no. 3
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:26:55 -0500
>>>>>[Leaving a member in is done, IF it is on purpose. Particularly on a
suicide mission or (semi-)permanent infiltration. AEPacker, that was a well
executed mission at the circus, Jen and Gabe are just a couple of clowns, who
are always trying to rain on everyone's parade. It's a pity they only seem
to rain on their own.]<<<<<
-- Gunny (20:25:30 PST/ 01:18:56)
Message no. 4
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 19:08:31 -0700 (MST)
*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[Perm respond?]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <18:44:34/01-18-57>

*****PRIVATE: AEPacker
>>>>>[Hold.

(Sir, permission to respond to several runners who have been commenting
about our operations?)

[Certainly.]

Aff.]<<<<<
-- Skull <18:46:08/01-18-57>

>>>>>[You're absolutely right, they wouldn't have had a chance to draw
their weapons. But from what I've heard, the collateral damage would
have been much higher, as would have been the number of additional
fatalities.

And I don't know about the rest of the team(they're hardly "mine"), but
calling me a runner is inaccurate. I'm a soldier. And soldiers do what
they are told. Next time you operate with a special forces unit and they
tell you to leave and you don't, you'll be shot and killed unless you're
dead already. You're absolutely right, though. The team is everything.

When you are personally responsible for saving 200 lives while another
100 died in combat, then I'll listen to you with a little respect. Until
then.]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <18:53:58/01-18-57>

>>>>>[(YAWN) Runners professional? Please. Mercenaries and soldiers
and corporate forces are professional. You go where your commander tells
you and do what they tell. If your employer shouts "Jump!" You shout
"How high!" while in the air. I've spent over 20 years as a mercenary
working for governments, corporations, oppressed peoples, and private
individuals. I follow a Code to the letter. I know what I am capable of
and what I'm not, and I am not afraid to tell someone that I can't do
what they are asking for.

I am a professional.

Gunny, many thanks. See you on the battlefield. (Tips her hat)]<<<<<
-- Fat Chance <19:00:40/01-18-57>

>>>>>[When you tell your team member to extract you from an unpleasant
and volatile situation, it would be unprofessional for her not to follow
your wishes. Only a fraggin shadowrunner or wannabe-mercenary
wouldn't.]<<<<<
-- Short Stuff <19:04:41/01-18-57>

>>>>>[Please excuse my team, everyone, if thier attitudes about
shadowrunners are somewhat caustic. We have all had our run-ins and
quality control problems over the years.

None of us are runners. We are all soldiers, and gainfully employed as
well. I'm sure we all appreciate your concern, though.]<<<<<
-- Skull <19:08:07/01-18-57>
Message no. 5
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 0:49:47 EST
>>>>>[
+++++Include File: umbrella.construct3.918.mccl

You might want to use this Gunny, we wouldn't want to see your delicate
mechanisms go all rusty...]<<<<<
-- Jen and Gabe <00:50:35/19-01-57>
Message no. 6
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 1:02:13 EST
>>>>>[Tyeah! Okay chummers. You're "soldiers". That makes you
SOOOO much
more different from the rest of us. Newsflash: A fair chunk of the runner
population is somehow ex-military. And that includes us. What we did (I'm
not sure you "soldier" types understand this concept -- it means when you
actually _do_ something without waiting six and a half months to get it
cleared from some dumb-assed CEO who has NO idea whats going on) is kinda
private (we did the dirty stuff you haven't heard of. And never will), so
we're not about to tell you. But we will say this:

We were part of an insertian team. A bunch of us would go in, frag
over a facility, and take out the goodies. No big deal. Everyone does that
drek. But when your team is important, you don't go putting parts of it in
jeapordy. Nobody has the right to tell you to leave a comrade where he or
she is gonna get trashed. That would burn up the team, not to mention frag
the privacy concept over pretty well too. We've kept dustoff waiting for
more than thirty minutes in hostile airspace to get the whole team out. If
the pickup had been trashed, then we would have either fought our way to
safety, or died (personally, I put my bets on the former. You do NOT want
to see Jenna when she's pissed). Null persp. All for one, neh?]<<<<<
-- Jen and Gabe <01:02:02/19-01-57>
Message no. 7
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:32:34 -0700 (MST)
*****PRIVATE: Skull
>>>>>[J et G def corp. Prince uncle. Scan?]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <00-14-46/01-19-57>

*****PRIVATE: AEPacker
>>>>>[Neg. Min risk et prio. Go cure, wanna.]<<<<<
-- Skull <00:17:42/01-19-57>

>>>>>[I take it then you're part of a corporate black ops squad, then.
I'll remember to file that away as a potentially useful bit of information.
Oh, and we never said we were "ex" anything. We _are_ soldiers, not ex-
soldiers.]<<<<<
-- AEPacker <00:21:19/01-19-57>

>>>>>[When you've fought in Poland during the EuroWars, Thailand,
Cambodia, both sides of the Aztlan civil war, and four Desert Wars
campaigns, then you'll have earned your bragging rights. When you have
your Code, then you'll have earned fairness in combat. When you have
lived to your word and proven your honor, you'll have earned my respect.

Until then.]<<<<<
-- Fat Chance <00:27:39/01-19-57>

>>>>>[I'm surprised that you runners haven't hunted these blowhards down
yet. Or are they just not annoying enough?]<<<<<
-- Short Stuff <00:30:51/01-19-57>

*****PRIVATE: Fat Chance, Short Stuff, AEPacker
>>>>>[CND. JS say nullit. QB too.]<<<<<
-- Skull <00:33:30/01-19-57>
Message no. 8
From: JOHN SPAIN <93135653@****.dcu.ie>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:06:33 +0000 (GMT)
>>>>>[Let's see, Fat Chance is the Troll lady, right? And you say you've
fought in Poland during the Euro Wars... hmmm. I know it's unpolite to
ask something like this to a lady, but how old are you?]<<<<<
-- Goku (13:12:34/01-19-57)
Message no. 9
From: ANGLISS BRIAN EDWARD <angliss@****.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:37:58 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[I goblinized when I was 14, joined the army at age 17, and saw
combat first in 2032. I am now 43 and have spent the last 26 years in
combat.]<<<<<
-- Fat Chance <15:38:41/01-19-57>
Message no. 10
From: JOHN SPAIN <93135653@****.dcu.ie>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:01:21 +0000 (GMT)
*****PRIVATE: Fat Chance
>>>>>[Ahhh. Goblinized. that explains a lot. I have a friend who was born a

Troll, you see, and she is acutely aware of the accelerated ageing rates
some metahumans are prone to. Of course, if you were born human you don't
have to worry about that]<<<<<
-- Goku (15:45:23/01-19-57)
Message no. 11
From: Craigtw1@***.com
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:24:14 -0500
>>>>>[No offense taken on my part, even though I am a
"shadowrunner". Gunny
happens to be my brother, and I, too, used to work for the Feds.]<<<<<
-- Buzz (The one the Only...Human Bee in the Matrix)
Message no. 12
From: Evan Hughes <ehughes@****.carleton.ca>
Subject: Re: Mail, race, and other goodies
Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 0:04:53 EST
>>>>>[Goku, we all know how stupid that question really is. She's
_obviously_ just a really long lived ork with a DREK LOAD of experience.
Duh. She wouldn't make that kind of crap up... Geez. You're WAY too
cynical.]<<<<<
-- Jen and Gabe <00:05:45/20-01-57>

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