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Message no. 1
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:15:04 +0000
***** PRIVATE: Lynch
>>>>>[ As you already were interested in finding and hunting invae, I'd
like to inform you on two things.

First, I am sorry to have caused that much confusion in Chicago
recently. I know sending that many watchers into town had alerted the
military astral troopers, but you can asure them that will stop now.
I've gathered the data I needed, or rather, haven't. The military mages
are really good, I've to say, but too few. Maybe you can invluence
someone to deploy more magicians in the area. It is not a good sign I
managed to scoop nearly every area but military bases with watchers
(although it took some time in several areas).

Second. I am quite sure there are no more bug hives in the Area of
Chicago (outside the CZ, that is, of course *sad grin*). Although this
sounds good, we are quite sure at least one hive, probably two, are out
there, maybe running, no, moving towards Seattle. I have no signature
to follow, no trace to use, so can't find them. For all I know they are
after an ork called 'Bull', or, to be more exact, after his children.
Last I know of Bull is that he was in Seattle, and probably still is,
hence my suspicion on the hives' destination.

Um - on a related matter... we have to find out some things about the
hive(s) that follow Bull, and therefore need to enter the CZ physically
(No, I am not mad enough to enter it astrally!). Is there any chance to
find patrol plans for south chicago, especially air patrols? Foot
patrols at the wester border of the CZ? Offshore sea patrols? Anything?

I know this is sensitive data, but we really need to get some trace on
the fucking bugs, real fast, and going in is the only option we have
now, so I thought asking couldn't harm... ]<<<<<
-- Canis <14:13:27/01-27-58>
Message no. 2
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:02:50 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Canis
>>>>>[So, you're one of the watcher-bombers, huh? You're right, they'll
be damn relieved to have fewer alarm bells going off along the Wall. So
will the QRT units who had to scramble to respond to astral beings
crossing the Wall.

You realise how much your scouting was costing just in JP-8? Let alone
the degradation in response because we had so many fucking false alarms
that one team got badly chewed on, because they got tired and careless,
and just one of the many calls turned out to be a hot contact that left
three good men dead.

Please, don't do that again. If we'd realised it was a runner we could
just have asked you nicely to stop: we thought it was a bug shaman
trying to screw with us and if the Army had found you they would have
responded appropriately.


You want into the Zone? No problem. I can get you in and out. Means a
delousing on the way out, and I mean that almost literally, but I'd
rather have you come out through a clear lane and be checked clean,
rather than just scoot over the Wall somewhere. There have been more
crossings and intrusions, and the response is getting a lot more lethal:
even down to bouncing Bettys and spider mines buried in the rubble on
some stretches. I would advise against doing it yourself.

I'm heading out to the Zone, or at least to the units round it, myself;
there's a guy I need to talk to. Provided you follow the lanes and
submit to the exit checks, I can get you in and out.]<<<<<
-- 1Lt J R W Lynch <20:03:34/01-27-58>
Strategic Intelligence Gathering Agency
Message no. 3
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:26:44 +0000
***** PRIVATE: Lynch
>>>>>[ Watcher bombing, eh? Nice term. But nearly none of these
"bombs"
should cross or even get near the border of the CZ. I was searching for
the hive, and am quite sure it wouldn't be near the border, as the
military should - and as far as I can tell does - keep astral security
tight around these area...

Sorry to hear about the losses. I didn't know a few days of alarm would
stretch the assigned units to a level where they couldn't cope with
their jobs. What is a JP-8, btw?

As for friendly asking to stop: a) I couldn't have done so, as I have
friends to protect, and need to find that fucking hive. And b) I've
seen how some military units "ask friendly" when I was in Washington 15
months ago. Thanks, but no thanks.

For passing a "clear line" - no problem here. Weeeeell... maybe there's
a _small_ problem. How tight will they look for "mundane" equipment?
Most of us a registered as mercenary unit, but some are not. Although
it should be possible to produce falsified IDs that will tag us as
mercs, they'd have no chance to withstand closer inspection. We'd take
mil-spec equipment with us and want to bring it out, too, of course.

If that makes any problems, we'd rather go one of our own ways. ]<<<<<
-- Canis <11:19:30/01-28-58>
Message no. 4
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:12:02 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Canis
>>>>>[Okay, a couple of points. One, throwing magic around in the
vicinity of Chicago is a bad move unless you're wearing a uniform. It
gets people killed.

Two, there are some guys manning the Zone who could care less about your
friends, because "bringing friends out" has a nasty habit of turning
into "smuggling out an insect spirit or three". Going around gung-ho and
screwing with them makes them mad: their job is keeping the bugs in, you
made that harder.

You ever consider that just maybe we weren't your enemy here? That we
might have been able to help, or at least turn a blind eye while you
did? But act like we are, and you'll soon be right.


Going in and out through a transit area: this is the CZ, it's expected
that anyone going in will have some pretty questionable gear. Provided
the IDs will pass a cursory check, it shouldn't be a problem.

Both ways, allow a delay of about fifteen minutes per person, maybe a
little more, for the screening: it's a before-and-after astral check.
Having the "before" to compare is the reason it's minutes instead of
hours, apparently.]<<<<<
-- 1Lt J R W Lynch
<17:10:42/01-28-58>
Message no. 5
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:23:29 +0000
***** PRIVATE: Lynch
>>>>>[ The friends I mentioned are not within the CZ. In fact, they are
not even in Chicago. And yes, we learned the hard way bugs, especially
true form /invae/, can disguise themselves very well.

You imply the Military might have _helped_ me to scan Chicago? Passivly
by turning a (lot of) blind eye(s) on my watcher swarms? Errrm... no,
in fact that thought never came to my mind. Maybe I am still a burned
enough child from that killer sqauds that ran through Washington (yeah,
there _were_ killer squads. I've seen, and fought, them. Although the
Compers were no angels, and some of them too well trained and equiped
to me civilians, hosing down several dozens of _unarmed_ civilians is
not what I consider warfare, much less civilized.

When will you be in Chi-Town to arrange a platoon of mercenaries on a
rescue mission. We will have to rescue three (or less) people, an exec
of Fuchi and his bodyguards. So there will be more people with us (I
hope) when I leave then when we enter. That manageable? IDs will be
present, enough to fool any handscanner, and most scanners present in
patrol cars. Heavy hitter scanners will just laugh, I fear.

Just in case you need 'em...

+++++ Include: Name_ID.txt ]<<<<<
-- Canis <17:14:31/01-29-58>
Message no. 6
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 01:50:54 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Canis
>>>>>[Canis, if you want to make the military your enemy, then feel
free. Just make sure you give me warning to get everyone I care about
out of the way, then you can fight your own little war to your heart's
content. It shouldn't take long.

Sounds like my presence would do more harm than good, from the size of
the chip you carry on your shoulder. Bailing out friends I can
understand: hauling out an exec is a Fuchi problem, not mine and not the
Army's. Fuchi can negotiate at a far higher level than I can, and should
damn well do so. The fact that you're going in freelance should tell you
something very significant indeed.

I repeat my advice: don't try crashing the Wall, most especially not in
platoon strength. After the way so many have been seen to get in or out
in the last few months, and the consequences of a couple of those, the
guards are much less tolerant and the defences rather more lethal than
before.]<<<<<
-- 1Lt J R W Lynch <01:50:42/02-01-58>
Strategic Intelligence Gathering Agency
Message no. 7
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Sun, 2 Feb 1997 15:33:07 +0000
***** PRIVATE: Lynch
>>>>>[ Uh-oh, Lynch, calm down, please.

I never meant to insult anyone, neither you nor any soldier doing his
job, and I _meant_ it, I feel sorry for those who died.

To explain why I react ... somewhat alergic to "the military" as a
structure: You remember the "comper's campaign" back in '55? Just doing
our business, we suddenly found ourselves "im Kessel", how do you call
it? under siege. And I've seen soldiers doing things to civilians I
haven't seen before. Now I do know they acted under orders, but...

No, I don't want to start a war 'gainst the military. I may be ... a
deniable asset, but I am not stupid. Really.

As for Fuchi: No, they _can_not_ help us better then you. It took all
contacts we had to even get those IDs, I just thought it would be
better to have some explanation _why_ we go in. Fuchi does not know we
"work for them", as we don't. It _is_ hauling out friends. Sorry if I
didn't state that clear enough, in times I am heavily distracted, my
English still lacks a lot (I've been told). If I _were_ to work for
Fuchi, I wouldn't have contacted you, or would have done it as
official as I could.

What does "chip on shoulder mean"? I am not used to that (although I
fear it was no positive remark... :-)

Although you might not trust "deniable assets", I assure you we would
not risk a single soldier's life, even if we would cross "the wall"
illegally. But the alternative you mentioned sounds much better then
any plan we made up, especially as it doesn't has the risks any other
plan had. And keeping risks low is something we all learn, isn't it?

Again, I apologize if I insulted you. As you - as you said - would
rather not see us, can you tell me a person on duty to talk to when we
"go in officially" ? Thanks a lot in advance. ]<<<<<
-- Canis <14:48:02/02-02-58>
Message no. 8
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 23:01:28 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Canis
>>>>>[I'm calm, Canis, trust me. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry.

I missed the "comper's campaign". Out of country at the time, in
"Nebraska". Someday someone is going to wonder why so many combat
Marines are assigned to a minor depot in Nebraska... mind you, all those
Army "crop surveys" in the 1960s held up for decades and covered what
the Green Beanies were _really_ doing in Laos and Cambodia.

As for the soldiers... there was, as usual, a cleanup exercise, and a
few heads rolled for the excesses. Unfortunately, I wasn't involved.


Okay, deal's still on. Allow the time I warned you for the clearance
checks, and make sure none of your friends coming in are too dirty.
Corporate warrants we could care less about, but anyone on the FBI's
Most Wanted should think twice before running those checkpoints. Don't
worry about firepower, nobody volunteering for a hop across the Wall
goes in light.


Chip on shoulder... means you're walking around acting aggressive,
looking for a fight. You came across that way, partly because your
English is actually very good (it reads as if from a native speaker) and
I didn't realise it wasn't a first language for you, and failed to make
appropriate allowances. Looks like we both misjudged each other. Sorry.

I may or may not have time to come in with you, but I can get you in and
out, and right now the SecDet would be glad to cut down on unauthorised
intrusions and exfiltrations: and since it seems you're going to try it
whatever I say or do, I might as well support you and try to help you
get out alive <g>

If you get out in one piece and I wasn't with you, the price of my aid
is a fairly thorough debrief on conditions inside. Deal?]<<<<<
-- Lynch <23:01:36/02-03-58>
Message no. 9
From: Sascha Pabst <Sascha.Pabst@**********.UNI-OLDENBURG.DE>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 13:44:56 +0000
***** PRIVATE: Lynch
>>>>>[ Phew, glad it was in fact just a misunderstanding! I would have
hate to have (another) Feind as mighty as you - I am on too many hit
lists right now, no need to increase that number.

As for Washington - be glad you weren't there. It was the first time I
faced military, and learned what little I know of tactics. And I saw
things I'd prefer never to know about, let alone see it. Civilians cut
down by MGs, or soldiers in grenade traps or mine fields. Heck, I wish
I know what all that was about... no, rather not.

None of us is (currently) hunted by any governmental office, as far as
I can tell. In fact, we even worked for these people, and they might
even be happy (*shudder*) to find a trace newer then 9 months from me
or... one or two of my fellows. Well, I hope my cover ID will do what
Orion promises it does.

Unless you have business inside the Zone, I do not think there is a
need to accompany us (although you are of course welcome to, if you
want to), as I hope, no, know these mercs coming with us should offer
the power we need (especially as Fohdytoo and Orion drill them for
melee combat, and M... we magicians teach 'em the theories. But as I
said, you are welcome.

The mercs suggested we could help your people, or the military, when we
go in, by dropping supplies for the locals. I was told military does
so, to support the civilians, and as we have to go in anyway...

You have your deal, we will give you a full, uncensored debrief
(probably we won't tell all at the sure-to-come "official" debrief) as
long as you don't show faces or IDs. ]<<<<<
-- Canis <13:26:39/02-04-58>
Message no. 10
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: ODIN - Bughunt
Date: Tue, 4 Feb 1997 18:16:02 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Canis
>>>>>[I'd make one small point regarding Washington, Canis. "Unarmed
civilians" using grenades and mines aren't "unarmed". These aren't
inconspicuous items to carry and plant, and hanging around the area
where people are laying them is sort of dangerous.

Supplies aren't a problem - we don't want you so tired from playing
beast-of-burden that you lose people - but information is. If you're
going anywhere near any of >>encrypted list<< we would appreciate your
playing courier: just drop off data and collect reports. Let me know
which, if any, you'll be in and I'll give you the chips.

As for the debrief... you'll be "informed sources" or "informants
currently considered reliable". No names, no pack drill. If you give us
vid and we use it, faces and voices will be masked. It's in our interest
too, else getting this sort of data from shadowrunners becomes a lot
harder.]<<<<<
-- Lynch <18:14:26/02-04-58>

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