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Message no. 1
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Runner Here
Date: Sat, 22 Mar 1997 23:47:30 EST
>>>>>[Everybody here that's dealt with a slimey, double crossing, two-bit
Johnson knows just what kinda tricks they pull to get out of paying the
nuyen. Needless to say 7 sec guards, not innocents, but sec guards, is a
bit of an overestimation. Even then, when the drek hits the fan,
especially when your Johnson forgets to inform you of security cameras
and other assorted drek, sec guards are out to get you. Not shake your
hand and tell you, "Good job, you've infiltrated our building." But to
show you with guns ablazing, just how fragged you really are. This is a
runners worst nightmare, not, their deepest fantasy come true, like many
Johnsons like to think.

I will do most any type of work available, and I will do it cleanly,
unless vital info is witheld. Then as most runners would know, it's
no-holds barred.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo<23:59:59/03-22-58>
Message no. 2
From: Matt Breton <mbreton@**.NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 02:40:49 -0800
PRIVATE: Gweedo
>>>>>[Appreciate the apologia, but after turfing seven whomevers, isn't
your time best spent moving, instead of sitting kind of hapless in front of a turtle?

Oh, and if/when you do go after your Johnson, you might want to exercise
a bit more foresight. I bet there're more eyes watching him than the
building you didn't sneak into.]<<<<<
-- Push <01:27:37/03-23-58>
Message no. 3
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 09:53:20 EST
>>>>>[What's an apologia? Is that an apology? When did I apologize?

As for me being on a tortise, this part of getting away from trouble is
called biding your time. I've run all I want. And if Ares really wants
to come over and get me, they'll get me and about 10 other people
fighting with them tooth and nail. Johnson, on the other hand, is
probably being by an assasin buddy of mine, just waiting for me to say
the magic word. I wish I could get him myself, but that isn't feasible
right now.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo<03-23-58/12:00:00>
Message no. 4
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 17:27:02 +0000
>>>>>[Gweedo, not wanting to rain on your parade, but if Ares want you,
they'll get you, and 'ten people fighting tooth and nail' isn't likely
to slow them down much. Your best hope is that they don't care enough to
spend what killing you would cost.

Trust me, I used to _be_ Ares Security. If we got killed, that was a tax
deduction for "loss of capital assets". So we lost a few guys, who
cared? We did, the accountants didn't, the operation was "still cost
effective".

As for taking out Johnson... well, best of luck, but I've been there and
it's not exactly as easy as you seem to think: and Johnson was only a
middleman anyway. You want whoever hired him, and once Johnson's dead
you'll never know that.

Welcome to the shadows, amigo.]<<<<<
-- Lynch <17:28:53/03-23-58>
Message no. 5
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 14:11:13 EST
>>>>>[Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, Lynch. I've been running
the shadows long enough to know when an operation isn't cost effective
anymore. I'm pretty sure by the building that me and Pulse hit, that it
was a low level run against a monster of a corp. If they really wanted
me bad, they would've found me by now. And if by chance they happen to
find me, I doubt that they would send a whole fraggin army after me. If
they did that for every two-bit runner that broke into one of their
buildings to steal a person from their grasp, their programs wouldn't be
cost effective anymore. They would blow all of their dough tracking down
runners. I don't really care who hired Johnson, but when somebody tries
to ruin me, they'll get all of my wrath. I'm in the business of killing
the messenger.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo <03-23-58/13:02:33>
Message no. 6
From: Jeffrey Mach <mach@****.CALTECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 12:32:51 -0800
>>>>>[Gweedo, I would suggest you consider Mr. Lynch's comments with more
gravity than you seem to be giving them. While it is unfortunate in this
world we live in that there are those who are sheltered enough to consider
human lives as no more than "capital assets" this is not the case for all.
The men you killed had friends and lovers, some of them perhaps even had
wives and children. It seems to me to be unwise to make light of their
deaths in such a "public" forum.

While I would have to concur that it would be an unwise business practice
for a large corporation such as Ares to "send a whole fraggin [sic] army"
after "every two-bit runner" as yourself, there may be individuals within
the corporation who may be personally involved enough to weigh the
circumstance differently. Note that to publicly announce yourself as the
killer of certain men, you greatly increase the ease, and thereby greatly
reduce the cost, of your being acquired, targeted, and eliminated by those
who would wish to return to you the harm you did to their compatriots,
perhaps with interest. This of course, after you have been forced by
ungentle persuasion to provide them with all the knowledge you have about
the person stolen from their grasp that you alluded to.

The greatest boon of shadows is anonymity.]<<<<<
-- Hephaestus <12:35:34/03-23-58 PST>
Message no. 7
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 1997 20:21:26 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Gweedo
>>>>>[You know what you're doing, then: so, good luck and best wishes.

I admit, when Johnson screws you, hunting him down and killing him does
have a useful effect on any future contracts. Pour encourager les
autres, as Voltaire so rightly said. Used to work for me: I hope it
works for you.]<<<<<
-- Lynch <20:22:51/03-23-58>
Message no. 8
From: Jaimie Nicholson <jaimie.nicholson@********.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 10:05:56 +1200
>>>>>[Would everyone please stop all this macho posturing? I get screwed
by Johnsons all the time, and do you hear me complaining? No. Please do me
the same courtesy.]<<<<<
-- Squatter <15:03:44/03-23-58>
Message no. 9
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 01:05:51 EST
>>>>>[Hephaestus, I don't like the fact that I Might have to kill people
for money. But I do not make light of people dying. If you remember
Johnson was the one getting pissy about turfing 7 sec guards.

As for them being sec guards, they know the risks of guarding a big corps
assets. I do feel sorry for their compatroits, and other people that
have interest in them, but i couldn't be a shadowrunner if I moped around
my hidey-hole every time I geeked some slag. That's it for me, there are
no if's, and's, or but's about it. You live, or you die. There is no
middle ground.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo <03-23-58/24:44:23>

*****Private: Lynch
>>>>>[I'm glad somebody around here knows that there are other people
that know what they're doing. I'm not going to actively pursue Johnson,
but if I ever see him, he's going to have some new breathing holes.

Right now, my dance card is kinda empty, know where I can pick up some
premo cred?]<<<<<
-- Gweedo <03-23-58/24:59:22>

>>>>>[All right hoop-fraggers, I don't need your stinkin advice to help
me breathe longer okay. As for Famine and her illustrious life, why
don't you go frag your buddy Death, seems you two don't have all four
wheels touching the pavement anyway. I don't have to listen to your
inane comments giving me advice that I don't need. Also, why in the frag
would I want to come after you two peices of drek. Please tell me
quickly or else I might lose interest.]<<<<<
-- Johnson<03-24-58/00:03:12>
Message no. 10
From: Mike Goldberg <michael.goldberg@*******.COM>
Subject: Re[2]: Runner Here
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 1997 08:59:59 MST
>>>>>[ Her? HER?!? You fragging idiot, I'm a guy you -- +++++ TERMINAL
CONNECTION LOST ]<<<<<
-- Famine <15:51:22/03-24-58>

>>>>>[ Johnson, I don't know whether to thank you or kill you for your
stupidity. Shut up and either talk shop talk or don't talk at all.
Threats are inane, boring, and seem to be the only thing of worth that you
can open your mouth for.

They really should make this place harder to get to, so that we don't have
to listen to a whole bunch of fools. ]<<<<<
-- Scourge <15:59:01/03-24-58>
Message no. 11
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 00:13:16 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Gweedo
>>>>>[Gweedo, you're showing all the hallmarks of intelligence <g>.

Okay, I can point you in the direction of some decent work. Not top
dollar, but not prime risk either, and usefully out of the public eye.

Contact a guy on this board, called Vincenzo, he's got something that
needs a smart runner to handle. He'll tell you what the constraints are
_before_ he bitches about you not following them, which sounds like it
should be a welcome relief for you.]<<<<<
-- Lynch <00:15:43/03-25-58>
Message no. 12
From: "Mark A. Imbriaco" <mark@******.NET>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 10:16:05 -0500
***** PRIVATE: Ice
>>>>>[ I'm sorta between jobs at the moment .. I'm interested in the run.
Let's setup a meet to discuss the details. ]<<<<<
-- Nomad <10:14:53/03-25-58>

***** PRIVATE: Tamlyn
>>>>>[ I managed to get my hands on a hell-hound pup .. what are we looking
at
for time to get him trained similar to Castor and Pollux? ]<<<<<
-- Nomad <10:18:10/03-25-58>
Message no. 13
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 1997 20:34:04 EST
*****Private: Vicenzo
>>>>>[I've heard that you need a smart runner for a job. Please
respond.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo<03-25-58/19:32:55>

*****Private: Lynch
>>>>>[One other note, what did you have to do with all of that talk about
Abraham and his horde of racists?]<<<<<
-- Gweedo<03-25-58/22:44:14>
Message no. 14
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:16:31 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Gweedo
>>>>>[Yeah, we need someone with more brains than muscle. Not a tough
job, nor a superbly paid one, but it should pay help pay the rent.

Come to the club at >>encrypted<< anytime after seven and ask for me at
the bar, we'll talk.]<<<<<
-- Vincenzo <22:17:53/03-26-58>
Message no. 15
From: "Paul J. Adam" <shadowtk@********.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 22:14:17 +0000
*****PRIVATE: Gweedo
>>>>>[Haven't done anything with Abraham except sic the FBI on him, for
his own protection. Jaxon Goldsmith left a lot of enemies, and saying
"the great Thunda and his noble ideas" is likely to get you snuffed by
one of the few thousand people who lost friends or family.

Talk's free, and being an asshole isn't illegal. If he moves from words
to actions, of course, I'll take enormous pleasure in landing on him
like a ten-ton safe dropped from low Earth orbit, but right now I can do
without more of that "threatened by Federal Gestapo thugs".

Oh, I forgot, my boss - bless his cotton socks - is bringing a
defamation suit against Abraham, which our tame lawyer says is damn near
a dead cert, so I'll at least get redress in court and a suitably
grovelling apology. Assuming he lives that long.]<<<<<
-- Lynch <22:14:38/03-26-58>
Message no. 16
From: Gweedo The Killer Pimp <yawas@****.COM>
Subject: Re: Runner Here
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 1997 13:56:13 EST
*****Private: Vicenzo
>>>>>[I'm there.]<<<<<
-- Gweedo <03-28-58/12:55:09>

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