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Message no. 1
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:49:48 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, Irish, I'm twenty-two, got a SIN, no worries, no problems. You
might say I could *afford* to be an idealist. I hang here because you learn
more about the *real* world round here.


I live Downtown. So my opinions about policing the Barrens mean damn all.
For sure I'm not moving to Easyville just so I can vote for more cops. She's
on her own there.


I pay taxes so that, as long as I don't bother anyone, I don't get bothered.
End of story. If the Star can't keep me safe, then fine, let's get Knight-
Errant beating the streets, I care less as long as nobody kicks my door
down.

Lobby the Governor? Yeah, right. Too many people got too much invested
in having the Barrens.

Where do you think Shiawase dump tokamak liners? Their fusion plants
generate some pretty sick neutron emitters... which they landfill in
Seattle. Wno really cares?

Not anyone 'round here, that's for sure.]<<<<<
-- Marlowe <01:49:39/07-02-60>
Message no. 2
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:11:31 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, Irish, I'm not a runner, I'm a student who knows who to ask to
keep his account here live.

"if you're not an idealist at twenty, you've got no balls.
If you're still an idealist at thirty, you've got no brains."


Word I hear is that a few stiffs turned up in Tacoma. Aztlan Leopard
Guards, AWOL for a few years. Any ideas who, why or how?]<<<<<
-- Bungle <22:11:57/070-02-60>
Message no. 3
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:54:02 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[Join the club, Marlow. I got a SIN (several, actually), and pay
loads of taxes so that sometimes the Star will come in and save my hash
instead of hauling it off to jail.

Your right, your opinon on more cops for the barrarens and Redmond
_should_ mean damn all. Unfortunetly, whenever the govener or the Star
does an opinon poll to see how people feel about more cops for the slums,
they do it in Downtown, Bellviue, Everett and what not.

Actually, a few of the folks around here _do_ actually care (Easy,
Valentine, etc.) just not enough to actually change things (course all
the runners in Seattle couldn't change things, but what the hey).]<<<<<
-- Irish <11:53:17/07-08-60>
Message no. 4
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:58:06 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[Nice quote, pitty it don't reflect reality, or we'd have alot more
idealists on this board.

Ain't heard anything about a Leopard team getting geeked, but I do seem to
remeber something about a couple of Leopard Guards dissapearing in Seattle
six, seven years back. It could be the same crew.]<<<<<
-- Irish<11:57:25/07-08-60>
Message no. 5
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 01:49:48 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, Irish, I'm twenty-two, got a SIN, no worries, no problems. You
might say I could *afford* to be an idealist. I hang here because you learn
more about the *real* world round here.


I live Downtown. So my opinions about policing the Barrens mean damn all.
For sure I'm not moving to Easyville just so I can vote for more cops. She's
on her own there.


I pay taxes so that, as long as I don't bother anyone, I don't get bothered.
End of story. If the Star can't keep me safe, then fine, let's get Knight-
Errant beating the streets, I care less as long as nobody kicks my door
down.

Lobby the Governor? Yeah, right. Too many people got too much invested
in having the Barrens.

Where do you think Shiawase dump tokamak liners? Their fusion plants
generate some pretty sick neutron emitters... which they landfill in
Seattle. Wno really cares?

Not anyone 'round here, that's for sure.]<<<<<
-- Marlowe <01:49:39/07-02-60>
Message no. 6
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 1999 22:11:31 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, Irish, I'm not a runner, I'm a student who knows who to ask to
keep his account here live.

"if you're not an idealist at twenty, you've got no balls.
If you're still an idealist at thirty, you've got no brains."


Word I hear is that a few stiffs turned up in Tacoma. Aztlan Leopard
Guards, AWOL for a few years. Any ideas who, why or how?]<<<<<
-- Bungle <22:11:57/070-02-60>
Message no. 7
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:54:02 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[Join the club, Marlow. I got a SIN (several, actually), and pay
loads of taxes so that sometimes the Star will come in and save my hash
instead of hauling it off to jail.

Your right, your opinon on more cops for the barrarens and Redmond
_should_ mean damn all. Unfortunetly, whenever the govener or the Star
does an opinon poll to see how people feel about more cops for the slums,
they do it in Downtown, Bellviue, Everett and what not.

Actually, a few of the folks around here _do_ actually care (Easy,
Valentine, etc.) just not enough to actually change things (course all
the runners in Seattle couldn't change things, but what the hey).]<<<<<
-- Irish <11:53:17/07-08-60>
Message no. 8
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 1999 11:58:06 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[Nice quote, pitty it don't reflect reality, or we'd have alot more
idealists on this board.

Ain't heard anything about a Leopard team getting geeked, but I do seem to
remeber something about a couple of Leopard Guards dissapearing in Seattle
six, seven years back. It could be the same crew.]<<<<<
-- Irish<11:57:25/07-08-60>
Message no. 9
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:40:15 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, everybody, isn't news management wonderful?

Compare these two stories. Which will spark most outrage?

+++++begin news item 1
GUN BATTLE RAGES IN FORT LEWIS
A notorious red-light district in the garrison town of Fort Lewis was
shaken by a late-night firefight that left at least three dead and fifteen
injured, according to Lone Star and military police sources.

The incident began at 0015, when a white van pulled up outside the
Laughing Soldier bar, and the occupants opened fire with automatic
weapons. Staff and patrons of the bar responded and a gun battle
followed, as a second vehicle arrived to catch the bar's security staff in a
crossfire. After several brutal minutes, the attackers fled in their vehicles.

Two military personnel were injured in the crossfire, but MPs said both
would be questioned as soon as possible to discover why they had violated
their midnight curfew.

Lone Star were also not forthcoming on reports that the bar staff had
been armed with illegal automatic weapons, citing "continuing
investigations". They appealed for witnesses to come forward.


The startling violence of this action is seen by some as overspill from
conflicts in the nearby Puyallup Barrens, where several orgsnised crime
factions have been bloodily jockeying for position. Fort Lewis Residents'
Association president Amelia Leitt demanded action be taken. "We live
just a few miles from some of the worst criminal scum in North America."
she said. "Yet our so-called police officers concentrate on harassing
businessmen and off-duty soldiers. If Lone Star can't keep the Barrens out
of our town, perhaps it's time to find someone who can."
+++++end news article 1

Three dead, a dozen hurt, most of the "injured" not serious. Compare
that to this little item -

++++begin news article 2
EXPLOSION DESTROYS GARAGE
A vehicle repair facility in Hell's Kitchen, Puyallup was destroyed in an
unexplained explosion late last night. Lone Star said that the detonation
appeared to be caused by improperly stored gas cylinders.
+++++end news article 2

At least thirty dead at the scene, according to my source. But hey, it's
Puyallup, so who gives a damn? Cops never even went near the place.


Don't you just love it?]<<<<<
-- Bungle <22:40:45/06-22-60>
Message no. 10
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:49:21 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[My moneys on the first story, Bungle. Unexplained explosions in D-
security areas don't attract attention from most "upright" citizens.
Besides, the folks in the Barrans don't have the yen to replace Lone Star,
Fort Lewis does, so the Star will concentrate on maintaining their profit
margin and appease the Lewisites.]<<<<<
-- Irish <10:48:30/06-25-60>
Message no. 11
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:33:37 +0100
>>>>>[Yeah, I know, Irish, but I'm young and idealistic and stupid and I
still think that if you're not allowed to kill people, that shouldn't change
depending on where you are.

I mean, let's say I annoy someone. (easily done). They shoot me in the
head and dump my body in Bellevue. The cops find me, ID my corpse,
realise I've got a SIN and make at least _some effort to figure out who
killed me and why.

I turn up dead in Redmond. Anyone likely to even _notice_?


That ain't right.

Just because it's the way it is, doesn't make it right.]<<<<<
-- Bungle <23:33:52/06-26-60>
Message no. 12
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:50:21 +0100
>>>>>[I know a song about that, Bungle...

+++++begin audio
[Oldie-rock. Hard core. All overdriven guitars and gravel voice]

You might be a financial wizard
With a sack of loot
All I see is a slimy lizard
In an expensive suit
You go and run your corporation
You go and kiss some ass
You might buy and sell nations
But you can't buy class

You bastards think it's funny,
Lyin' and thieving all your life,
Think all there is is money,
Got your future strapped up tight,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right

You can take my fingers babe,
You can take my eyes,
You can take my past and future,
It won't make you wise,
You can have me thrown in jail,
You can steal my booze,
You can even read my mail,
Step on my blue suede shoes,

You bastards must be clever,
Got it mapped out in black and white,
But don't forget you'll never,
Get a dog to walk upright,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right

Go on out make another deal,
Feed your big fat face,
Go on out and cop a feel,
Get on somebody's case,
You surely would be satisfied,
If you could have it all,
But time ain't on your side,
You're going to the wall

You think that life's all dollars,
Greed and lust and spite,
But I wasn't born to follow,
Like to get my sleep at night,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right
+++++end audio]<<<<<
-- Dead-Man-Walking <23:50:43/06-26-60>
Message no. 13
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:02:32 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[An idealist? I'll be damned. I thought the last idealist around
here died when Caine cashed out.

No it ain't right, but I'm afraid it ain't going to change either. We
live in the real world, not a Disney sim (which is proabably for the best,
a Disney sim with this lot in it would be pretty freaky).

The best you can do is try to lobby the govener to increase police
activity in the barrens (fat chance), or talk some off-duty cops into
investigating on their own time.]<<<<<
-- Irish <11:02:50/06-30-60>
Message no. 14
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 22:40:15 +0100
>>>>>[Hey, everybody, isn't news management wonderful?

Compare these two stories. Which will spark most outrage?

+++++begin news item 1
GUN BATTLE RAGES IN FORT LEWIS
A notorious red-light district in the garrison town of Fort Lewis was
shaken by a late-night firefight that left at least three dead and fifteen
injured, according to Lone Star and military police sources.

The incident began at 0015, when a white van pulled up outside the
Laughing Soldier bar, and the occupants opened fire with automatic
weapons. Staff and patrons of the bar responded and a gun battle
followed, as a second vehicle arrived to catch the bar's security staff in a
crossfire. After several brutal minutes, the attackers fled in their vehicles.

Two military personnel were injured in the crossfire, but MPs said both
would be questioned as soon as possible to discover why they had violated
their midnight curfew.

Lone Star were also not forthcoming on reports that the bar staff had
been armed with illegal automatic weapons, citing "continuing
investigations". They appealed for witnesses to come forward.


The startling violence of this action is seen by some as overspill from
conflicts in the nearby Puyallup Barrens, where several orgsnised crime
factions have been bloodily jockeying for position. Fort Lewis Residents'
Association president Amelia Leitt demanded action be taken. "We live
just a few miles from some of the worst criminal scum in North America."
she said. "Yet our so-called police officers concentrate on harassing
businessmen and off-duty soldiers. If Lone Star can't keep the Barrens out
of our town, perhaps it's time to find someone who can."
+++++end news article 1

Three dead, a dozen hurt, most of the "injured" not serious. Compare
that to this little item -

++++begin news article 2
EXPLOSION DESTROYS GARAGE
A vehicle repair facility in Hell's Kitchen, Puyallup was destroyed in an
unexplained explosion late last night. Lone Star said that the detonation
appeared to be caused by improperly stored gas cylinders.
+++++end news article 2

At least thirty dead at the scene, according to my source. But hey, it's
Puyallup, so who gives a damn? Cops never even went near the place.


Don't you just love it?]<<<<<
-- Bungle <22:40:45/06-22-60>
Message no. 15
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:49:21 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[My moneys on the first story, Bungle. Unexplained explosions in D-
security areas don't attract attention from most "upright" citizens.
Besides, the folks in the Barrans don't have the yen to replace Lone Star,
Fort Lewis does, so the Star will concentrate on maintaining their profit
margin and appease the Lewisites.]<<<<<
-- Irish <10:48:30/06-25-60>
Message no. 16
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:33:37 +0100
>>>>>[Yeah, I know, Irish, but I'm young and idealistic and stupid and I
still think that if you're not allowed to kill people, that shouldn't change
depending on where you are.

I mean, let's say I annoy someone. (easily done). They shoot me in the
head and dump my body in Bellevue. The cops find me, ID my corpse,
realise I've got a SIN and make at least _some effort to figure out who
killed me and why.

I turn up dead in Redmond. Anyone likely to even _notice_?


That ain't right.

Just because it's the way it is, doesn't make it right.]<<<<<
-- Bungle <23:33:52/06-26-60>
Message no. 17
From: Paul J. Adam Shadowtk@********.demon.co.uk
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 23:50:21 +0100
>>>>>[I know a song about that, Bungle...

+++++begin audio
[Oldie-rock. Hard core. All overdriven guitars and gravel voice]

You might be a financial wizard
With a sack of loot
All I see is a slimy lizard
In an expensive suit
You go and run your corporation
You go and kiss some ass
You might buy and sell nations
But you can't buy class

You bastards think it's funny,
Lyin' and thieving all your life,
Think all there is is money,
Got your future strapped up tight,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right

You can take my fingers babe,
You can take my eyes,
You can take my past and future,
It won't make you wise,
You can have me thrown in jail,
You can steal my booze,
You can even read my mail,
Step on my blue suede shoes,

You bastards must be clever,
Got it mapped out in black and white,
But don't forget you'll never,
Get a dog to walk upright,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right

Go on out make another deal,
Feed your big fat face,
Go on out and cop a feel,
Get on somebody's case,
You surely would be satisfied,
If you could have it all,
But time ain't on your side,
You're going to the wall

You think that life's all dollars,
Greed and lust and spite,
But I wasn't born to follow,
Like to get my sleep at night,
Just 'Cos You Got The Power,
That don't mean you got the right
+++++end audio]<<<<<
-- Dead-Man-Walking <23:50:43/06-26-60>
Message no. 18
From: Brion David Wauters bdw8@****.ucc.nau.edu
Subject: Silence and Noise
Date: Wed, 30 Jun 1999 11:02:32 -0700 (MST)
>>>>>[An idealist? I'll be damned. I thought the last idealist around
here died when Caine cashed out.

No it ain't right, but I'm afraid it ain't going to change either. We
live in the real world, not a Disney sim (which is proabably for the best,
a Disney sim with this lot in it would be pretty freaky).

The best you can do is try to lobby the govener to increase police
activity in the barrens (fat chance), or talk some off-duty cops into
investigating on their own time.]<<<<<
-- Irish <11:02:50/06-30-60>

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