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Message no. 1
From: "E.S. Brunsell" <ericb@***.WISC.EDU>
Subject: The Pope!
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 15:23:05 CST
>>>>>[What a shame. Has anyone been paying attention to the happenings in
Rome lately? The Pope was doing one of his Lenten masses when a guy yellinf
"Stop the Lies!" Opened fire on him with a Cybergun. He killed the pope then
he blew off his head. The strange thing is that the "authorities" say that he
killed himself with a cortex bomb!

The Vatican announced earlier this morning that the 112 pope would be Peter,
an Archbishop in Rome. He has been dubbed "Peter the Roman" after the first
Catholic Pope.]<<<<<
-- Couch <..:..:.. / ..-..-..>
Message no. 2
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 21:40:38 -0600
>>>>>[Huh? Enough of the end of world drek, Couch. Face it. Life goes
on,
and no stupid Egyptian timeline changes that.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <21:38:00/03-19-55>
Message no. 3
From: Timothy Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 1994 23:54:20 -0600
>>>>>[And you think that the Pope's death won't effect us all, Necromancer?

I have a bad feeling about you, today...

The Catholics are going to be out for revenge (at least some are). This could
mean it's time for some runners to come in, any time that the Pope is killed
there's gotta be soem help (think about it, what major political figure ISN'T
going to have some anti-bullet barriers on them at all times, along with some
mages doing backup at all times...)

Life has gotten a little bit scarier...]<<<<<
-- Solonus <23:53:43/03-19-55>
Message no. 4
From: Michael Lozano <lozanom@******.ENMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 12:24:03 +0300
>>>>>[It's a sad day for everyone when the holiest man on earth becomes
the target of an assassin's bullet. May God bless Pope Peter the Roman,
and my God have mercy on all our souls.]<<<<<
-- StJohn <12:24:45/03-20-55>
Message no. 5
From: Dave Sanborn <dasanbor@*******.SYR.EDU>
Subject: The Pope
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 14:35:46 -0500
>>>>>[ Would the Pope surround himself with mages though? I doubt it... I
was
under the impression that the Catholic church, like most religions, continue
to deny the simple fact that magic exists. ]<<<<<
-- Warped Warlock <14:38:01/03-20-55>
Message no. 6
From: Timothy Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 17:37:45 -0600
>>>>>[Nope, the Catholic church has accepted magic. Haven't you read up on
it? I don't remember which one it was, but some old Pope back in the '20s
declared magic to NOT be evil, and so forth. Check the Grimoire, it should
be on somewhere around here...it should have some info on it.

They can't deny magic exists...they can only deny the slightly less obvious
things...]<<<<<
-- Solonus <17:38:09/03-20-55>
Message no. 7
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:10:54 -0600
>>>>>[Give me a break! Who actually listens to the Pope anymore after the
Awakening? Not anyone sane. Anyway, the main point of Couch's was that many
"psychics" have stated that the last Pope before the "end of the
world" would
be called Peter the Roman. Despite what you may think, not all of the world
is religious zealots. And anyone who is could care less if the Pope died.
Think about it. If you are calling yourself the son of God, are you really
gonna care if somebody with a funny hat with sort sort of sick fetish with
people kissing his ring bites it? I think not. Like Marx said, religion is
the opium of the masses.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <21:07:08/03-20-55>

>>>>>[Heh....I think you might have gone a bit far on that one,
Ded-boy.]<<<<<
- Icepick <21:08:07/03-20-55>
Message no. 8
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:22:50 -0600
>>>>>[Oh, get a fragging life, you stupid zealots. Religion went out with
the
Awakening. If God exists, why the hell doesn't he show us? At least the
totems have some sort of influence. The only religions that still work are
those that consider the Earth central, like Wicca, druidism, shamanism, and
elementalism. The Pope was just an old guy in a funny hat that controlled an
organization with a hell of a lot of money. And they never did a damn thing
with it, despite their high and mighty claims. They can go frag themselves
for all I care.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <21:19:32/03-20-55>

>>>>>[Jesus H. Christ, Necromancer, calm down!]<<<<<
- Icepick <21:20:05/03-20-55>
Message no. 9
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:29:14 -0600
>>>>>[The slightly less obvious things....*sigh* The Catholic Church only
pardoned Galileo for saying that the solar system was heliocentric in the
early 1990s....Get with the times, people. The Catholics are out.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <21:26:27/03-20-55>
Message no. 10
From: Gian-Paolo Musumeci <musumeci@***.LIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:38:07 -0600
>>>>>[The Roman Catholic Church also preserved knowledge during the Dark
Ages,
Necromancer. They made a lot of mistakes - the Inquisition comes to mind, and
Pope Leo III's declaration that heretics were to be burned at the stake - but
they did a lot of good things, also. A lot of their peripheral beliefs were
really messed up, but they had a core of good ideals.]<<<<<
-- Durandal <21:40:16/03-20-55>
Message no. 11
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 21:48:29 -0600
>>>>>[Good ideals ain't worth drek if you don't do nothing with 'em,
Durandal
my friend.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <21:45:21/03-20-55>
Message no. 12
From: Can I play with madness <MKNABUSCH@******.BITNET>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 00:14:54 -0500
>>>>>[Well, you know what they say about ideals.]<<<<<
- Harlequin <totems>
Message no. 13
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:40:28 -0800
>>>>>[ Couch: Raven and I were rather upset to hear that the Pope was
killed,
so I went and did some investigating. Guess what I found in the Vatican system?
Maybe if your really nice I'll let you know. ]<<<<<
-- Nightstalker <22:49:19/03-20-55>
Message no. 14
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:48:33 -0800
>>>>>[ Actually Warped Warlock, I can tell you that the Catholic Church
accepts
magic as another of Gods gift to Humanity. The Church does frown upon
summoning, althouth it is not forbidden or classified as a sin.

As for the Pope having magical guards, I know that he has four special
protectors. They are a hermetic mage, a Physical Adept, a Dove Shaman, and a
cybered bodyguard. There are also rumors that there is a free Spirit that
has converted to Catholism and keeps a constant watch over the Pontiff.
]<<<<<
-- Raven the Mage <22:57:59/03-20-55>
Message no. 15
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 1994 22:54:19 -0800
>>>>>[ Necromancer, just because you have no faith in anything is no reason
to
belittle the faith of others. Of course I would expect nothing more from a
Catholophobe who is too busy judging the Church by it record from the Middle
Ages to the late 20th Century instead of looking at what it is in the 21st
Century. ]<<<<<
-- Raven the Mage <23:03:44/03-20-55>
Message no. 16
From: Necromancer <shilberg@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 07:40:07 -0600
>>>>>[Raven....I am only harsh on religions with apparently no basis in
realityy.
The Catholic Church has yet to use its massive resources for anything useful.
When they do, I might take them seriously.]<<<<<
- Necromancer <07:40:40/03-21-55>
Message no. 17
From: Timothy Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 07:43:48 -0600
>>>>>[Necromancer. Let me explain this to you.

Pope dies -> Mafia changes -> Lots of differences to us runners.

I don't care about the fact that the pope died any more than how it's going
to affect me. But it's GOING to affect me. So I'm worried.]<<<<<
-- Solonus <07:43:16/03-21-55>
Message no. 18
From: Gian-Paolo Musumeci <musumeci@***.LIS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 07:51:26 -0600
>>>>>[All right, I'll give you that much...]<<<<<
-- Durandal <07:51:48/03-21-55>
Message no. 19
From: Timothy Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 07:53:33 -0600
>>>>>[Ah, the Catholics aren't all THAT bad. At least they still aren't
out
to hate metahumans, magic and such...they've realized that it exists.]<<<<<
-- Solonus <07:52:59/03-21-55>
Message no. 20
From: Oswald was framed <krobar@*****.NET>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 10:39:45 -0500
>>>>>>[ The one and only thing that is disturbing about catholicism is
that so many people believe in it. Religion is a powerful tool, folks,
don't ever forget that; and the Pope, no matter who he is, is among the
master craftsmen. ]<<<<<<
-- Crane <10:40:23/3-21-55>
Message no. 21
From: The Shadow <BES@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 19:22:18 -0700
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Message no. 22
From: Dave Sanborn <dasanbor@*******.SYR.EDU>
Subject: The Pope
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 1994 20:40:47 -0500
>>>>>[ Goes to show how much attention I pay to religion. Felinius
always taught me that the whole "God" schtick was something to avoid if
at all possible. Wonder if he went to Heaven or Hell in the end...
probably Hell knowing that ol' boy... ]<<<<<
-- Warped Warlock <20:44:41/03-21-55>
Message no. 23
From: Egil Geir Brautaset <egilbra@***.UNIT.NO>
Subject: The Pope!
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 11:03:57 +0100
>>>>>[ The more magically inclined catholics of the world are scouring
the upper metaplanes, looking for clues to what happened to the pope.

The free spirit calling himself Malabrahim has already set in motion
his: Cult of Peter the Antipope, but then his cult of Ronald Reagan
wasn't really a success anyway. ]<<<<<

-- Vilya <GMT 10:06:14/22-MAR-55>
Message no. 24
From: "Jason Carter, Nightstalker" <CARTER@***.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 1994 22:32:53 -0800
>>>>>[ Necromancer, you speak like a typical non-believer who doesn't
bother
to research before making assertions about the Church. ]<<<<<
-- Raven the Mage <22:40:01/03-22-55>

>>>>>[ I think that is enough, Raven. There's no point getting in an
argument
with a man who's only real talent is in bitching. ]<<<<<
-- Nightstalker <22:42:44/03-22-55>
Message no. 25
From: Timothy Skirvin <tskirvin@********.UNI.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 10:35:24 -0600
>>>>>[Good idea, Nightstalker. Get EVERYONE to stop arguing with
Necromancer.

It's just not worth wasting your time with it, trust me. He's VERY close-
minded, and seems to be a little homicidal at times too...

That's why I only bait him now, I don't argue with him.]<<<<<
-- Solonus <10:34:45/03-23-55>
Message no. 26
From: Ripley <BES@******.UCC.NAU.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Pope!
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 1994 14:52:28 -0700
>>>>>[Will you guys just shut up about the Pope?! Hey, I'm a religious
guy, but
this getting ridiculous!!

Just let it go, people.]<<<<<
--Ripley (14:53:45/03-23-55)

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